Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man trailer
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I was so hyped for this show when it was originally announced as an in universe MCU canon telling of Peter Parker's freshman year. I've lost all interest since they have abandoned that. Now, it's just yet another in the multitude of various Spider-Man animated shows out there.
I haven't been interested in an animated Spider-Man show for literally decades. Being part of the MCU was the hook that was going to get me to watch it.
The 1994 show and Spectacular were both excellent, and the 2017 show known as Marvel's Spider-Man was mostly good, though I didn't like its third season as much.
Okay, here's the trailer:
I admit, the style doesn't appeal to me. The cel-shaded look gives me unpleasant memories of the MTV Spidey series, and it seems like it's trying too hard to be hip and with it or whatever the kids call it these days. Still, some aspects make me mildly curious. It looks like they're putting Norman Osborn in a similar role to the MCU's Tony Stark vis-a-vis Spidey's costume upgrade, although that mentor-protege relationship is bound to turn out worse.
I admit, the style doesn't appeal to me. The cel-shaded look gives me unpleasant memories of the MTV Spidey series, and it seems like it's trying too hard to be hip and with it or whatever the kids call it these days. Still, some aspects make me mildly curious. It looks like they're putting Norman Osborn in a similar role to the MCU's Tony Stark vis-a-vis Spidey's costume upgrade, although that mentor-protege relationship is bound to turn out worse.
Lol, love being muted
I'll admit I was mostly feeling this way but once i saw the trailer, I'm actually a bit interested again. I love how Peter's classic 60s look is retained for a modern setting with a diverse supporting cast.
That said, I am disappointed in seeing how Osborn is, yet again, entwined with Peter's development of Spider-Man in such a direct manner. But I'm willing to give it a chance.
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While the shows don't have much in common I do think what Deadpool and Wolverine did though was change the overall vibe. The MCU was slowly dying and looking like it was on it's last legs. If created new optimism in the future of the MCU. Deadpool really was Marvel Jesus.
I don't think Kingpin is that big of a deal to people who weren't already going to watch it. He's definitely nowhere near as popular as a character like Hulk, or Wanda, or Clint.
I think Kathryn Hahn was the main draw for a lot of people. She's fairly popular even outside of the comic book realm, so I think her presence brought it a lot more mainstream attention than it would have gotten otherwise.
Looks like it could be pretty fun. Looks like a pretty nice update to Spidey's early days, but I do agree with @The Scrooge Doctor about Osborne's role in the series. I don't understand why adaptions are constantly doing this kind of thing with the hero and their main nemesis. But I will admit that what the Insomniac game did with Doc Ock was one of the best parts of the game. And the other extreme for me is Joker killing Bruce's parents in the Tim Burton movie, that was completely unnecessary.
I know my skepticism going into Agatha was while I liked Kathryn Hahn I had some doubts the character would work outside of the tv sitcom setting her character was used in during "WandaVision." While I already knew that Wanda and Vision would and can work outside of that gimmick I wasn't so sure about Agatha, especially because I am generally not into fantasy as much as sci-fi so the whole thing about witches didn't outwardly seem interesting to me. The show ended up exceeding my expectations, thankfully.
I think the main draw there is more Vincent D'Onofrio than Kingpin as a character.
It makes sense to me. A lot of Spidey's arch-foes turn out to be people close to him or to his friends, or people he trusted such as teachers and mentors. And having Peter think of Osborn as a mentor has been used in multiple adaptations ever since the Raimi films.
Besides, if they're going for something that evokes MCU Spidey in broad strokes, Osborn makes sense as the Tony Stark surrogate in this continuity, the biggest tech billionaire in the story's context.
Yeah, I guess they have always been cloesly connected thanks to him being Harry's father, and I can see the appeal of the added bit of betrayal when it comes out that he's Green Goblin.
This got me thinking, where does the "whole guy/girl in the chair" as they call it now, for superheroes come from? The first one that comes to mind for me would be Alfred in Batman '66, where they him calling Batman with information he got while him and Robin where out and about.
This got me thinking, where does the "whole guy/girl in the chair" as they call it now, for superheroes come from? The first one that comes to mind for me would be Alfred in Batman '66, where they him calling Batman with information he got while him and Robin where out and about.
The MCU was nowhere near dying. Deadpool and Wolverine did nothing to "save" it
Alfred didn't do that very often, and certainly not in the modern fashion where the "person in the chair" is continuously monitoring and advising the hero over comms.
The first character that comes to mind for me in that capacity is Tina McGee in The Flash 1990, followed by characters like Chloe Sullivan in Smallville, Barbara Gordon/Oracle in Birds of Prey (2002), Felicity Smoak in Arrow, and Cisco Ramon in the Arrowverse The Flash. Indeed, the comics' Oracle, who debuted in that identity in 1989, was something of a template for that character type.
There are earlier antecedents in fiction, though. The 1972 TV series Search featured investigators working for a high-tech firm advised from a Mission Control-like command center by a team of experts led by Burgess Meredith. The investigators had miniature video/audio/telemetry instruments that let them stay in touch with the team.
I know Alfred doesn't totally fit, but he was the closest character I could think of pre-Arrow.
I thought of Felicity and Cisco, since they were where that term came from, but I totally forgot about Chloe.
Never heard of Search, but I was mainly thinking of super heroes specifically. It seems kind of funny to me that it's become such a trope in the movies and shows over the last decade or so, when it's something you don't really see in the comics.
I thought of Felicity and Cisco, since they were where that term came from, but I totally forgot about Chloe.
Never heard of Search, but I was mainly thinking of super heroes specifically. It seems kind of funny to me that it's become such a trope in the movies and shows over the last decade or so, when it's something you don't really see in the comics.
No, the phrase "guy in the chair" was coined by Ned in Spider-Man: Homecoming, although the trope existed before him, of course.
Yes, but most superhero tropes come from earlier fiction. The superhero genre is a distillation of every other genre.
As I said, the original comics version of Oracle is one of the earliest iterations of the trope that I'm aware of in superhero comics, although David Lieberman/Microchip, the Punisher's hacker/tech support ally, might be an earlier example by a couple of years. I remember him playing a "guy in the chair" role in his guest appearance in the '90s Spider-Man animated series, though I don't know for certain if it worked the same way in the comics.
Really, it's just a function of the modern age, when action heroes tend to need computer-savvy tech support to gather information and help them do their job, and when earbuds allow agents in the field to stay in regular touch with their support teams (although of course wired earplugs connecting to walkie-talkies have been a thing since decades earlier). You see it all the time these days in action TV and movies in general.
Based on early reports people thought the show would be about Peter before meeting Tony Stark. Now it's in an alternate "What....if?" type multiverse story
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