Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread
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You know that will be ignored in favor of "OOOH! Its RDJ back in the MCU again!" and just hand-wave the actor being as tied to Iron Man than almost anyone else and their characters associated with that franchise.
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FF is not an origin story (apologies if we already knew this) https://ew.com/fantastic-four-first...S_lgD1ftJUrN7UgGd0_aem_BxuSxyOHMABN5bWpi6lF_w
It doesn't matter that there might be a narrative explanation for RDJ being Dr. Doom; it's still a blatant and desperate act of stunt casting and proves that the MCU - and the entire Superhero film genre, really - is on life support
You juxtaposed my quotes as if to imply a contradiction, but of course general and specific argument are two different things, and every case is different. Bringing back proven, trusted directors to make an important, linchpin movie makes perfect sense, not as a superficial grab for audience attention but as a way of ensuring that your movie is made by people who've proven they can do the job reliably and well. It's especially important if you're under a time crunch, making a known commodity preferable to an unknown one. Bringing back your former star in a new role seems different, more arbitrary. It doesn't bear on whether the movie will be well-made and delivered on schedule, because the actors aren't remotely as important to that as the director(s), and good directors could find any number of capable actors and cultivate their best performances. If anything, it seems like a bad idea because it's just going to overshadow the character himself.
As I said, it might work if Doom never reveals his face, if it's a physical and vocal performance where Downey buries himself in the role. If they hired him because he's a great actor who can transform himself, great. It's no different from, say, Universal Monsters bringing back Bela Lugosi as Ygor and Boris Karloff as a mad scientist in later movies. But if they hired him because he was Tony Stark and they want him to be a version of Tony Stark again, that's what seems desperate and unimaginative, and a bizarre way to approach Doom.
Although from photos showing the four of them in spacesuits and Ben not yet the Thing would seem to indicate their 'origin' is going to be shown at some point in the movie. Maybe it's some kind of museum on the first floor for tourists and that's a video playing, a flashback later in the movie, or possibly just a quick intro during the credits.
One thing I saw on social media today that I thought would be interesting. What if Chris Evans also came back as an evil version of some character and was joined by Maestro (evil hulk from the future). Things would really start to get interesting then. The new Avengers would have to prove themselves against the evil versions of the old ones.
Norton or Bana as Maestro would be my dream.
Lou Ferrigno.
He'd be perfect, too! So many options...
I've never been a math whiz but I seem to recall some rule about the sum total of two wrongs and what it does and doesn't equal.
This screams MCU version of "The Maker" to me. And it works for me.
I like it.
The response should be negative because the decision is stupid and desperate.
I'm looking forward to what RDJ will bring to the role. I think he's too smart and too good of an actor to just do Tony redux. Doom is very different from Tony, with perhaps genius and ego being the only things they share. And even there, how they present those attributes is different.
I am disappointed that Reed will not meet Tony. He's the one guy that might make Tony feel like an idiot.
I am disappointed that Reed will not meet Tony. He's the one guy that might make Tony feel like an idiot.
I think you mean freight trains.
