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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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Well, looks like no Professor X for Giancarlo Esposito. He's currently part of the reshoots for Captain America being added as a new character who wasn't in the first version of the movie.
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He doesn't look like any recognisable character but one suggestion I saw was Scorpio aka Jacob Fury brother of Nick. (He has said the he's signed up to appear in multiple MCU projects.)
 
Well, looks like no Professor X for Giancarlo Esposito. He's currently part of the reshoots for Captain America being added as a new character who wasn't in the first version of the movie.
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He doesn't look like any recognisable character but one suggestion I saw was Scorpio aka Jacob Fury brother of Nick. (He has said the he's signed up to appear in multiple MCU projects.)
The sunglasses (if part of the costume) go with my previous guess of Gyrich, but the knives say otherwise.
 
...as seen in the Nolan Batman and Webb Spider-Man origin films.
Before Nolan, when did we see Bruce's origin as he became Batman on the big screen? That doesn't apply in the same way at all. And every criticism I ever read of Webb doing Spider-Man's origin was "But we just did that? And better." Roger Ebert almost said exactly that as I recall, for example. (Yeah, yeah, "who cares what he says", I know, it's just one example of many.)

It is the very reason why those behind Captain America: The First Avenger did not care about the Salinger 1990 Cap film--both dealing with his origin, introduction to / battle with the Red Skull, and his eventual reemergence in the modern day after being frozen for decades.

I'm not sure if this is a joke or not? You think Fox's 3 FF movies are in the same viewership category as a direct to VHS movie of Captain America? It was ignored because the powers that be probably didn't even realize it existed. That's not even apples and oranges. That's apples and and [pick an object that's not even food]. The first Fox film was good enough for a sequel. That Captain America movie wasn't even good enough to be shown in the theatre in this country.
 
Well, I've already suggested ways that could be done quite simply and briefly, or worked organically into the story without distracting from it. But I wonder, do their origins really need to be recapped at all? How much explanation was there for MCU Spider-Man's origin? Hardly any. He was just there. And I don't think it was ever explained how Hank Pym discovered Pym particles or how he and Janet decided to become superheroes; it was just established that they had done so at some point in the past. By now, the MCU has enough superpowered beings that it's not like audiences will be confused by the existence of a few more.
OK. Point taken.
 
Before Nolan, when did we see Bruce's origin as he became Batman on the big screen?

Did you see Burton's Batman? What happens in young Bruce's life--that seminal act which is the one and only reason he will become Batman? There is no Batman without that tragedy happening, and it is seen in the '89 film, in Nolan's Batman Begins and in Snyder's Dawn of Justice. There's no dancing around that. None of the filmmakers involved operated from some ridiculous notion that "wells heyy...that origin or scene was in someone else's film, so I ain't doing that!"

And every criticism I ever read of Webb doing Spider-Man's origin was "But we just did that? And better." Roger Ebert almost said exactly that as I recall, for example. (Yeah, yeah, "who cares what he says", I know, it's just one example of many.)

Webb was telling his Spider-Man movie story. Not Raimi's. Do you understand that? His Spider-Man movie story. He was not obligated to use or avoid any Spider-Man content because Raimi used the same material. This utterly slapped-together "rule" does not exist to any degree, which is the very reason origins continue to appear in films involving many of the biggest superhero characters (and will likely be in the MCU Blade), as noted time and again.

I'm not sure if this is a joke or not? You think Fox's 3 FF movies are in the same viewership category as a direct to VHS movie of Captain America?

False criteria.

This is about the existence of previously filmed origins, not about the number of people who watched it.
 
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Who knows, maybe he's this new character and then later Professor X, like Lashana Lynch is both Maria Rambeau and Binary?

Yes, I know that's unlikely but I'm clinging onto hope.
 
Who knows, maybe he's this new character and then later Professor X, like Lashana Lynch is both Maria Rambeau and Binary?

Yes, I know that's unlikely but I'm clinging onto hope.
Lashana Lynch was also Captain Marvel. She's played three different versions of Maria in three different movies.
 
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