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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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I do agree it's disappointing. That being said, the 90s show animation was fucking awful so maybe it's trying to be consistent :lol:

The 90s show was trying to pull from a Jim Lee style that became popular at the time. No idea why they can't come up with something new. Batman animated is still ground breaking and holds up.
 
Ah, brilliant. The classic prejudgment before we even know anything about the plot, let alone seen any actual footage.
It’s Disney. Their track record hasn’t been good lately. It’s more likely to be bad than good based on their recent releases.

And there really hasn’t ever been a good F4 movie.
 
It’s Disney. Their track record hasn’t been good lately. It’s more likely to be bad than good based on their recent releases.

And there really hasn’t ever been a good F4 movie.

Ah yes, this all automatically means this one MUST be bad. How about an open mind and see what the actual product is going to be like?
 
Well, they certainly nailed the vibe of the 90s show...
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A little too well to be honest. Of all the elements of this show I'm nostalgic for, slightly jankey animation isn't one of them. I'll give it a fair chance, but this has put my expectations at about a three.
 
Look, both previous attempts at FF were set in the present. Being a period piece is a good way to set apart the new attempt from the get go.
 
I think it really boils down to "each to their own." The only thing I didn't really track with was Moon Knight. I don't know the source material, which probably helped, but I just didn't find it that engaging. The Eternals was ok, but I didn't think it was bad. I really enjoyed Echo. I'm not a huge FF fan in general, but Pedro Pascal brings some gravitas.

I liked X-Men First Class and enjoyed the retro look and feel of it. I have no issue with FF being in the 60s.
 
Look, both previous attempts at FF were set in the present. Being a period piece is a good way to set apart the new attempt from the get go.
Plus as a concept, a family of superheroes just fits the era better. The only way it works in modern day is if you make them some kind of weird reality TV thing, or some other kind of corporate contrivance ala 'The Boys', and that would feel like a betrayal of intended tone of the original.
 
It’s Disney. Their track record hasn’t been good lately. It’s more likely to be bad than good based on their recent releases.

While Disney/Marvel's track record of late has suffered a number of blows, and yes, that can be a legitimate cause for concern, I would hope the suggested period of the FF film might aid in steering it away from many of the tone / creative leanings responsible for said blows.

And there really hasn’t ever been a good F4 movie.

...which has nothing to do with the quality of a new production. For example, Batman was plagued with one shoddy movie after another, but that had no bearing on the Nolan movies of this century, proving a creatively potent Batman film was possible. Same with Captain America. There's always a possibility the new FF film will hit that kind of jackpot to finally do the FF concept justice.
 
I feel like I don't have the grounding I would need in FF comics to really have a horse in this race.

You do not to commit to every issue of the FF to understand the concept at its best--which can be found in any number of arcs between the first 60 issues.
 
Look, both previous attempts at FF were set in the present. Being a period piece is a good way to set apart the new attempt from the get go.

Except the time frame wasn't the problem. The problem, in part, was focusing on the origin, so a good way to set it apart is not to do that again. I was hoping the MCU would do with the FF what it did with Black Widow, Black Panther, Spider-Man, and the like, introducing them in the background of a few earlier films to establish their presence in the universe before giving them their own movie.

I have no issue with FF being in the 60s.

As I've said, I have no intrinsic issue with the idea in and of itself; I just don't see how to reconcile a period setting in the MCU with the intrinsically cutting-edge, highly public nature of what the FF do. It's one thing when the characters operate in secret, but that's out of character for the FF. Surely that's the overriding concern -- to be true to the characters and the spirit of the series. I just see a period setting working against that, unless it's an alternate reality.
 
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