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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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He’d have a problem bringing him back now…

Now? Feige could have considered this before "Civil War" was shot. But he didn't. Hurt also returned for Infinity War", "Endgame" and "Black Widow".

Majors hasn't been found guilty yet. Despite that, you want Marvel to get rid of him now? Yet, it was okay to keep Hurt around?
 
Now? Feige could have considered this before "Civil War" was shot. But he didn't. Hurt also returned for Infinity War", "Endgame" and "Black Widow".

Majors hasn't been found guilty yet. Despite that, you want Marvel to get rid of him now? Yet, it was okay to keep Hurt around?
I was just being flippant about Hurt having died. But yes, it’s quite clear that he was an abusive POS, who didn’t suffer enough consequences, professionally or legally, for what he did to Marlee Matlin.

And no, it wasn’t okay to keep him around. I suppose the difference is that attitudes have changed - for the better IMHO - since Me Too etc, and, probably of more significance here, the Majors story has had way more publicity and attention than The Matlin/Hurt one got, with there being eyewitness evidence and footage. Majors also has a more prominent role than Hurt had and there seem to be other people coming forward to confirm that he was always an unpleasant asshole.

So yeah, I agree that Hurt’s hiring was far from satisfactory but there’s nothing we can do about that now. It doesn’t mean that other abusers can carry on free from consequence.
 
A couple more films bombing will solve the Kang problem.

I bet Captain America makes The Marvels look like Avatar 2 at the box office.
 
I wish Disney would just end the MCU. Period. I wish the DC movies would end with Aquaman 2. Hollywood needs to take a break from comic book movies/TV for at least a decade.
 
Finally seen it and it is not by far deserving its bad reputation.

The villain was very weak but that's a general problem Marvel has ( apart from Loki, Thanos and The High Evolutionary most villains are just plain bad or not that interesting). That Disney/Bollywood planet they were on and that whole cat/Memory from Cats sequence was also very weird and cringe inducing, took me a bit out of the movie and could have done without these scenes.

The general story was serviceable, not really memorable but ok.

Other than that i loved the team dynamic and the whole entanglement issue that led to some really cool fights. Love Kamala and her nerdiness and fangirling over Danvers, i figure many would react the same way if they ever met their main celebrity and were still a teenager.

Got a real kick out of the post credits scene - Kamala imitating ( unknowingly) Nick Fury when she starts up the Young Avengers and Pizza Dog/Kate Bishop!!!!

And yeah - first time ever for the MCU to have the X-Men in it, wonder how they will spin that one once the time comes to properly introduce them into the MCU.
 
Yeah, "just end it all" isn't a solution when material is decidedly mediocre. If we'd done that with Trek nothing would have been made past 2002 or very little, and I say that as someone who'll defend the first season of ENT to my deathbed. Hell, might as well say 1999 since after DS9 concluded we got two so-so years of VOY before that series wrapped up.

Just crank out less product so quickly and take the time to script doctor some of this stuff so we get fewer Secret Invasions or Quantumanias. My only argument with the MCU is we get too much in such a short time frame, not that it needs to end because [fill in reasons here].
 
Yeah, "just end it all" isn't a solution when material is decidedly mediocre. If we'd done that with Trek nothing would have been made past 2002 or very little, and I say that as someone who'll defend the first season of ENT to my deathbed. Hell, might as well say 1999 since after DS9 concluded we got two so-so years of VOY before that series wrapped up.

Just crank out less product so quickly and take the time to script doctor some of this stuff so we get fewer Secret Invasions or Quantumanias. My only argument with the MCU is we get too much in such a short time frame, not that it needs to end because [fill in reasons here].

Good point. I mean, heck, look at the original comics -- there have often been periods when a given superhero book was awful, but they just keep going and eventually get a better creative team, even a brilliant one.

Failure is not a reason to give up trying; it's a reason to learn from your mistakes and try to do better.
 
Yeah, "just end it all" isn't a solution when material is decidedly mediocre. If we'd done that with Trek nothing would have been made past 2002 or very little, and I say that as someone who'll defend the first season of ENT to my deathbed. Hell, might as well say 1999 since after DS9 concluded we got two so-so years of VOY before that series wrapped up.

Just crank out less product so quickly and take the time to script doctor some of this stuff so we get fewer Secret Invasions or Quantumanias. My only argument with the MCU is we get too much in such a short time frame, not that it needs to end because [fill in reasons here].

Marvel Studios is a bit of an odd one in that it exists to just crank out very specific IP. So if and when Captain America bombs - do Disney shareholders just go “keep going!” Doubtful so you likely try something with that narrow focus you have.

I still think it’s just the cultural moment moving on and while we will still have superhero films and more marvel films that this version of a shared universe is moving into the disco/hulu hoop space. Once that happens it does not matter what the films are like.
 
Perhaps it is a matter of fewer super-hero movies means freeing up more space and time for other types of films?

But "fewer" doesn't equal "none."


Marvel Studios is a bit of an odd one in that it exists to just crank out very specific IP. So if and when Captain America bombs - do Disney shareholders just go “keep going!” Doubtful so you likely try something with that narrow focus you have.

Except the reason that's worked as long as it has is because that IP is extremely diverse. Superhero comics, particularly Marvel's, were the product of companies and creators who had previously worked on a wide range of different genres, from action to mystery to horror to sci-fi to Western to romance to teen comedy, etc., and they dumped all of it into their superhero titles. And the MCU encompasses that diversity. A Captain America film is hugely different from a Guardians of the Galaxy film or a season of Moon Knight. So it's simply wrong to call it "very specific." Superhero comics are not one genre, they're every genre overlapping and loosely sharing a universe.
 
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