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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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Atlantis has been renamed Talocan in the MCU. Apparently cribbed from something in Aztec myth, from what I gather. Though I confess I know nothing of the subject.
 
So is this going to be the Beyonder Secret Wars or the Doctor Doom is a god Secret Wars?

I'm not sure if either would make an appearance but there are still many movies that have not been announced so it's possible Dr. Doom will get teased at some point. However i have a hard time seeing Byonder in the MCU at this point - a godlike being would need a long setup, much like Thanos, and it seems Marvel has decided for Kang to be the main villain for this arc.

Secret Wars will most definitely be something very different than in the comics, at best they will take the basic framework and re-work it to fit into the MCU much like they did with Civil War. The Beyonder may be one element that gets cut because it would invite too many story problems to have such an omnipotent character suddenly appear.
 
I'm not sure if either would make an appearance but there are still many movies that have not been announced so it's possible Dr. Doom will get teased at some point. However i have a hard time seeing Byonder in the MCU at this point - a godlike being would need a long setup, much like Thanos, and it seems Marvel has decided for Kang to be the main villain for this arc.

Secret Wars will most definitely be something very different than in the comics, at best they will take the basic framework and re-work it to fit into the MCU much like they did with Civil War. The Beyonder may be one element that gets cut because it would invite too many story problems to have such an omnipotent character suddenly appear.

The rumor is that
Doom will be a post credits scene in Wakanda Forever.
 
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we find out folks like Strange and Wong are perfectly aware of vampires. It'll just be the average Marvel citizen who doesn't know about them

For all we know, the average Marvel citizen knows all about vampires, but it just hasn't come up because it isn't relevant to the stories we've seen. We've never seen an MCU character get a parking ticket or a jury summons, or go to a box store to buy laundry detergent in bulk, but that doesn't mean the existence of such things is secret. It just means the stories aren't about them. Vampires could be common knowledge, but they just haven't come up.

I mean, where would they come up in conversation? "Mr. Parker, I'm confident Mysterio's allegations about you won't stick, but how about them vampires?" "Kate, I have to get home to my family by Christmas, just in case there's a random vampire attack!" Something doesn't have to be a secret to be irrelevant.


the same way he doesn't know about about that green minotaur-looking dude in MoM.

Yeah, who was that, anyway? And why was he the only non-human present? I don't find it odd for a magical community to have supernatural or inhuman creatures among its members, but it seemed strange that there was only the one guy.
 
Atlantis has been renamed Talocan in the MCU. Apparently cribbed from something in Aztec myth, from what I gather. Though I confess I know nothing of the subject.
Ah. Subterranean netherworld paradise and afterlife for those that died from drowning. Makes a kind of sense, though from memory it's not really associated with the oceans. More of an underground cave where rain water drains into. It's even ruled by a rain god.
 
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I don't see why it has to mean that, there is absolutely nothing about the basic concept of the character, a half-vampire/half-human vampire hunter, that can't work just as well if the vampires are a secret.

Again, Blade only exists to the world because of his corrupted state of being, and his life's mission. Frost had experimented with vampires because they were exposed enough to be encountered. Vampires out in the open were routinely seen in Tomb of Dracula and the magazines Dracula Lives!, Vampire Tales and Marvel Preview.
 
Again, Blade only exists to the world because of his corrupted state of being, and his life's mission. Frost had experimented with vampires because they were exposed enough to be encountered. Vampires out in the open were routinely seen in Tomb of Dracula and the magazines Dracula Lives!, Vampire Tales and Marvel Preview.

What's this have to do with the MCU and their version of him?

In the comics, Bruce makes gamma bombs. In the movies he doesn't. Things change a lot.
 
Damn you Momoa! So presumably to avoid comparisons with Aquaman (who let's not forget was the rip-offe not the rip-offed) the Aztec-inspired look of Namor and his people extends to them not being from Atlantis but from Tlalocan, which in Aztec myth was the afterlife reserved for people who drowned or died from water in some other way.

And as (almost) always this was revealed via some toys.

https://forbiddenplanet.com/363818-black-panther-wakanda-forever-marvel-legends-action-figure-namor/

In a way I kinda like the change. In Wakanda we have a very high-tech and powerful nation on a continent and its peoples who were exploited and forever altered by Colonialism.

It would be kinda cool if "Tlalocan" was that for the "western hemisphere" in a region exploited and forever altered by Colonialism.
 
So LEGO just gave away who the new Black Panther is. I won't post the pictures here but they're easy enough to find.

If you want a clue though it's...
...the transphobic, climate change denying, anti-vaxxer.
 
Damn you Momoa! So presumably to avoid comparisons with Aquaman (who let's not forget was the rip-offe not the rip-offed)

While Namor did the underwater kingdom thing first, Aquaman comics actually were first in making it Atlantis.

In fact, Namor’s creator never liked how later writers called it Atlantis and never did so in his own stories, as he saw it as a wholly separate concept from that bit of folklore/legend.
 
Thinking about it some more, with only six months between the two coming out they'll probably need separate directors.

3 years away. Film them both at the same time in the 2 years, a year for post. Doesn't need to be two different directors. Doesn't have to be the same either but it's not like they are pumping them out for 2023.
 
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