Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by bbjeg, Apr 6, 2014.

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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

  1. A+

    18.1%
  2. A

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  3. A-

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  4. B+

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  5. B

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  6. B-

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  7. C+

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  8. C

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  9. C-

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  10. D+

    0 vote(s)
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  11. D

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  13. F

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  1. Saul

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    Honestly, I don't know who is right for the part. Previous actors that played Reed didn't really work IMO. I think this casting will be like when Chris Evans was announced as Captain America.
     
  2. the G-man

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    They've been recasting that part for nearly 100 years now and just because most people like Karloff best doesn't mean people don't enjoy other versions. Boseman was great but this whole "no one can ever replace him" argument reminds me in no small part of the people who claimed no one could ever replace Heath Ledger as Joker (surprise! here comes Joaquin Phoenix!) or still think only Shatner and Nimoy could play Kirk and Spock
     
  3. the G-man

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    Ah-HEM ;)
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  4. Relayer1

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    I just don't like him much.

    He's better with his helmet on.
     
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  5. Gaith

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    Philosophical/generalized musings on age gaps in relationships should probably be discussed elsewhere.

    Yep, it's abundantly clear that the Four aren't a part of the main timeline's history, hence my suggestion they be introduced in a different universe's 1960s.
     
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  6. Set Harth

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    One thing I don't get about movie/streaming Kang: as I understand it, in the comics the Victor Timely thing happened because Kang intentionally went back to the 19th century to play the Tesla-esque inventor role. But Loki's Timely has roots in the 19th century: we see him as a boy in 1868. Yet HWR referred to a scientist living in the 31st century. Are we just supposed to accept that there's a version of Kang who was apparently born in the 19th century "because variant duh"? Or were all variants actually rooted in the 19th century somehow? Or was the boy Timely actually from the 31st century but got time-traveled back to the 19th through some unspecified event?
     
  7. Mr. Adventure

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    I can't object

    I've been thinking the current multiversal focus would be ideal for introducing some period piece comic movies. However, I don't know how much of that is just my personal likings versus actual mainstream appeal.

    For that matter though I don't know how much superhero movies appeal to the next generation. We seem to be stuck with targeting the superhero landscape of the 1990s not the current situation from what I've seen.

    The way I saw it as there are Kang variants everywhere, that's what we see in Antman and that's what the TVA is watching/pruning now. The Timely variant was being pushed to replace HWR by the manipulations of Renslayer and Miss Minutes.
     
  8. Christopher

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    The TVA isn't pruning anything anymore. That's the whole reason the Kang variants are able to exist. They're trying to protect the timelines now, not eradicate them.
     
  9. John Clark

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    I'm fine if they go with Pedro as I've enjoyed him in most of the stuff I've seen him in, but Ansoun Mount as Reed, yeah, that works for me too.
     
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  10. Mr. Adventure

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    They're monitoring them now, what will they do if one needs to be addressed? I assumed they would handle them harshly if need be.
     
  11. Christopher

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    The Kangs as individuals, yes. But "pruning" refers to the eradication of entire timelines and everyone living within them, which is a genocide twice as large as Thanos's every single time a pruning occurs. So it's very much the wrong word to use when discussing whatever sanctions they might impose on individual Kangs.
     
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  12. Mr. Adventure

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  13. Nerys Myk

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    I assumed all variants come from 19th Century Timely. Perhaps the 31st Century was his first stop. IIRC, comic Kang was from the 31st Century and assumed the name Kang after winding up in the 41st Century after over shooting his home time on the way back from Ancient Egypt.
     
  14. fireproof78

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    I object only that I don't want to take him away from Star Trek.
     
  15. TREK_GOD_1

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    The comparison was centering on hypothetical and actual cast changes from a defining actor/performance within the same series--(Boseman in the MCU & Karloff in the Universal monster movies, respectively), not casting a part in unrelated productions spanning generations.
     
  16. the G-man

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    In which case, I would respectfully submit James Bond/Sean Connery and the various successors, some more successful than others, but still recast
     
  17. the G-man

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    I think the days of actors not being able to do both TV (especially streaming) and movies at the same time is pretty much in the past.
     
  18. fireproof78

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    Not with Mount.
     
  19. JD

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    I'm a big fan of Pedro Pescal, but he just doesn't seem like a good fit for Reed Richards to me. If he is cast, he could be good in the role, but he's just not an actor that really jumps to mind as Reed for me.
    OK, now Anson Mount on the other hand would be great. But I'm not sure if his appearance in Multiverse of Madness would keep Marvel from wanting to use him. Yes, he was also Black Bolt in Inhumans, but I think most people probably wants to pretend that never happened.
    We really don't know much about the MCU's '60s, so they could easily have been around then, and they just haven't come up yet.
     
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  20. MikHutch

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    It's hard for me to really mentally cast F4