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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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I thought the theatrical cut of Daredevil was just . . . well, mediocre. I still bought a DVD copy of it, only it ended up being the Director's Cut. And I thought it was a lot better than the theatrical version.

Affleck was in the 2021 version of Justice League.

That version of the JL wasn't good either tbh
 
It might also help Affleck to be in something that's going to be a financial success for once and not crapped on by critics and or bomb at the box office

Batman VS Superman
Live by Night
Justice League
Air
Hypnotic
The Flash
Was Air not released directly to streaming? And it certainly got good reviews. Even my wife and I, who have zero interest in sport, loved it.
 
With how much it took to make it and market it and the expectations...sadly, yes.
Anything can be considered a failure if expectations are set unreasonably high enough. If a movie made two billion dollars it could be called a bomb as long as the general public adopted the stance that it was "supposed" to make three billion.
 
Anything can be considered a failure if expectations are set unreasonably high enough. If a movie made two billion dollars it could be called a bomb as long as the general public adopted the stance that it was "supposed" to make three billion.

Honestly online fan discussions became less fun for me when everyone became negative Nancies focused on profits and nitpicking
 
WB: We want the Avengers right now.

Dude: Well, we could do five or six movies and lay the groundwork for it. Each of them making hundreds of millions themselves.

WB: NO! AVENGERS! NOW!

DC was ahead of the game. They could've done JL first and built it up enough if they had the forethought
 
Anything can be considered a failure if expectations are set unreasonably high enough. If a movie made two billion dollars it could be called a bomb as long as the general public adopted the stance that it was "supposed" to make three billion.


With inflation and times changing we are likely to see movies have to make two billion to be considered a success. Probably not in the next 20 to 30 years though.

Just randomly choosing Robocop for example in 1987. It made 87 million at the box office. In todays standards that would be an abysmal bomb.
 
With inflation and times changing we are likely to see movies have to make two billion to be considered a success. Probably not in the next 20 to 30 years though.

Just randomly choosing Robocop for example in 1987. It made 87 million at the box office. In todays standards that would be an abysmal bomb.

Shrinking domestic box office plus growing international box office. The domestic box office cut for movie studios is between 50% to 60%. Usually your blockbuster movies get 60% because the theater is happy to get them in there, with the theater getting closer to 50% on a lot of other movies. But when you go international the studio starts to see their cut shrink to like 20% to 40%. So when you see most blockbusters now doing something like 60% to 70% of the box office from international that's 60% to 70% of the 'ticket revenue' getting back to studio at that lower 20% to 40% rate.

Let's say a movie does $1B and have it be $400M US, $600M global.

That could basically be like $240M(60% domestic) & $180M(splitting the 20%-40% range and using 30%) for a total of $420M.

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom made $1.3B at the box office, and the net profit for Universal Studios was estimated was something like $222M factoring in a $400M+ budget, promotions and then.

So theoretically it could have made $1B and possibly lost money.
 
The second week drop off on BvS was brutal if memory serves.

That's why WB considered it a failure. It earned more than 200,000 domestic in its first week and then dropped 70% for the second week. Audience turned out in droves to see the movie initially and decided they didn't like it.
 
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