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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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In a new complication to the whole Johnathan Major situation, he has now filed a domestic abuse complaint against the woman who accused him of abuse back in March.
So it looks like this whole thing is turning in a big he said, she said situation.
Given what came out about him after her accusations, it sounds like there's a pretty good chance she's the one telling the truth. Although I guess there's always a chance they both are, and they both got violent with each other.
Turning into the sequel to Depp/Heard?
 
Anthony Mackie described working with Harrison Ford on "Captain America Brave New World". As always Ford is quite direct.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/...america-4-set-shoot-piece-of-shit-1235658298/

“The first day was so intimidating,” Mackie said. “I was so fucking nervous I couldn’t remember my lines. He’s Harrison fucking Ford. There is this aura about him. But he dispels that really quickly because he’s such a cool guy. He’s everything a movie star should be. He would say, ‘Let’s shoot this piece of shit.’ And everybody was like, ‘Yeah, let’s shoot this shit.’”
 
https://www.joblo.com/anthony-mackie-defends-fellow-mcu-star-jonathan-majors/

I would like to very much point out that the article and title feel very misleading. Title says 'defend', article says 'actively standing up'. While all Mackie is saying, the US justice system is based on innocent untill proven guilty.

HOWEVER.... Seeing as how media works and how people only read titles of articles and nothing more, saying this might not have been a smart move on Mackie's part. People will twist words so quickly.
 
HOWEVER.... Seeing as how media works and how people only read titles of articles and nothing more, saying this might not have been a smart move on Mackie's part. People will twist words so quickly.

Nobody should let fear of other people's misreadings deter them from saying what they believe. No matter how clearly you say something, you'll never be understood by those who refuse to listen. You can't control how they react, so you shouldn't let them control your own choices.

Still, I am reminded of something I just read in Maureen Ryan's Burn It Down, how when an allegation of abusive behavior comes out, the system and society focus too reflexively on whether the accused is being treated fairly and can salvage their career rather than on the perspective of the accusers and whether steps are taken to make people safer. It doesn't make someone a bad person to stand up for the rights of the accused, but too many people are conditioned by the system to prioritize the celebrities' or executives' well-being above that of the less powerful without even realizing how that in itself perpetuates the systemic problem.
 
I mean, if Russell Crowe could keep up his career despite everything...


https://www.joblo.com/anthony-mackie-defends-fellow-mcu-star-jonathan-majors/

I would like to very much point out that the article and title feel very misleading. Title says 'defend', article says 'actively standing up'. While all Mackie is saying, the US justice system is based on innocent untill proven guilty.

HOWEVER.... Seeing as how media works and how people only read titles of articles and nothing more, saying this might not have been a smart move on Mackie's part. People will twist words so quickly.

Mackie is wrong. People are usually judged guilty until proven innocent. And even if the latter happens, some people are still regarded as guilty, based on personal bias. It's all about bias in the end, regardless of whether an individual is truly guilty or innocent.

Speaking of bias, some crewman is claiming that the new DisneyPlus version of Daredevil is a ghost of the Marvel Netflix version, despite the presence of Cox and D'Onofrio.
 
Mackie is wrong. People are usually judged guilty until proven innocent. And even if the latter happens, some people are still regarded as guilty, based on personal bias. It's all about bias in the end, regardless of whether an individual is truly guilty or innocent.

Did you not read the article?
Mackie isn't wrong. He's literally talking about the law in his country, not how people are judging him.

Funny how you quoted the post saying people only read article titles and that's literally all you did.
 
Mackie isn't wrong. He's literally talking about the law in his country, not how people are judging him.


Same thing. Even with the laws in this country. It's not always about the law or evidence. There have been plenty of times when it's all about bias.


Funny how you quoted the post saying people only read article titles and that's literally all you did.

Really? What title did I read?
 
Watching Iron Man 2 this afternoon. First time I've seen it in years. Gotta say that I had forgotten how bad ass Black Widow was in this movie. All the action poses and fighting skills.

But not much else. In IM2, I thought Johanssen was the weakest performer in the cast. Then I saw her terrific work in The Avengers and I realized the problem was never the actress, it was the script not giving her anything to work with.
 
But not much else. In IM2, I thought Johanssen was the weakest performer in the cast. Then I saw her terrific work in The Avengers and I realized the problem was never the actress, it was the script not giving her anything to work with.

Yep. She was hiding she was an agent until she was no longer relevant.

I understand she originally had more to do but that was a romance they cut for Pepper.
 
Strange I just watched Iron Man 2 today too.
The end battle is so weird, Whiplash appears and doesn’t even say anything. They fight for about 15 seconds and then they just defeat him with one blast. And that’s it.

And the final scene with them and Garry Shandling on the podium is so anti-climactic too. You’re just left like “oh I guess that’s the end of the movie then” :lol:
 
Yep. She was hiding she was an agent until she was no longer relevant.

No, that's not the issue at all, not even remotely. I'm not talking about the specifics of the plot, I'm talking about how well she was written as a character. The writers of IM2 wrote Black Widow as a sex object. Joss Whedon wrote Black Widow as a person.
 
The end battle is so weird, Whiplash appears and doesn’t even say anything. They fight for about 15 seconds and then they just defeat him with one blast. And that’s it.

I also rewatched this movie recently (I'm slowly rewatching all the MCU movies, only done the first six and this was by far the worst) and was shocked by how bad the final scene with Whiplash is. There's absolutely no pay-off to Whiplash's earlier claims about Tony's father screwing over Whiplah's - we never even find out if the accusation was true. Tony doesn't have any moment of "hey, my dad was actually a good guy: he left me instructions for a new element in a model city!" or anything. Then again, that would be a hard thing to explain as it was pretty weird (sure is lucky that city model was still lying around Tony's office after thirty years!)

And yeah, for as shitty as Whedon turned out to be he certainly didn't linger on ScarJo's body anywhere near as much as Favreau.
 
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