I envy you
Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread
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I envy you
^ Well, blowing off dinner with top Sony execs is entirely on him.
The Sony leaks suggest that's not entirely certain.
The Sony leaks suggest that's not entirely certain.
From what i've heard, Amy Pascal made promises to investors that TASM2 would be a billion dollar movie. While it certainly didn't bomb or flob. The spent $200 million and made $700 million worldwide. It was not the big hit they wanted. Either critcally or financially. Coupled with the hacks and leaks, Sony decided to cut their losses. Prematurely if you ask me. If there were any story problems blame studio interference and the writing team. Yes Orci and Kurtzman had their paaws on Spider-Man too.
^It wasn't premature if Sony wanted their next Spider-Man movie to top a billion.
Note that I said "perceived" losses. Perhaps "under-performed to expectations" is a better way to phrase it.
In advance of the Oscars, I was looking at 2014 films on Wikipedia and found the top ten grossing films on this page. I guess number 8 for the year wasn't good enough?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_in_film#Highest-grossing_films
It did finish behind all the other major super-hero movies.
As M.A.C.O. pointed out, Sony expects its Spider-Man films to gross in the $1 BILLION dollar range. Not entirely unreasonable in 2015 given a character of Spider-Man's global popularity. And not unprecedented with movies like Avengers, Dark Knight Rises and Iron Man 3 all hitting a billion. I'd wager Guardians of the Galaxy 2 will hit a billion.
Seen in those terms, then, yes, at less than $710 million, ASM2 can be said to have grossly under-performed to expectation.
Seen in those terms, then, yes, at less than $710 million, ASM2 can be said to have grossly under-performed to expectation.
Thanos is an Eternal in the comics, right?!?
From Titan...
So i wonder if Marvel will touch on that in a future film...
From Titan...
So i wonder if Marvel will touch on that in a future film...
My guess is they'll just gloss over the whole Eternal thing, especially with the similarities to the Inhumans. He'll probably just be some alien.
Especially since they didn't go with Drax's Eternal-related origin.
Yeah, too much back story that would bog down the film.
In Guardians of the Galaxy, the Nova Corps referred to him as "a mad titan/Titan". I guess that's their way of generically making him a powerful alien.
Agreed. Though I didn't like TASM2: Electric-boogaloo, the first one was pretty good, good enough that if they made a part 3, I'd watch it. Spider-man 2 is still my favorite among the Spidey films though.
Personally, I couldn't get through the first ASM. Not that it was especially bad per se, it just felt like an inferior and tedious retread of the older movies. As a result, I had zero interest in ASM2 even before it became increasingly clear it was going to be the trainreck it turned out to be.
The Titans and the Eternals being the same race wasn't definitively established until Roger Stern's run on Avengers, but I'm pretty sure that was always the intent. It was one of those "we've given you all of the information you need to put it together, but we're not going to come right out and say it" things.
I remember that upon reading the "revelation" in Stern's Avengers, that it was something that I had already put together. Much like I had already put together that Magneto was Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's father (Yeah, I know about recent events. Let's not digress there.) long before it was "revealed" by Bill Mantlo in the Vision and Scarlet Witch mini.
I don't know about that. The Titanians were created by Jim Starlin as a take off on the New Gods. The Eternals were created years later by Jack Kirby as a different twist on his New Gods concept. The Eternals have a very "Chariot of the Gods" influence and existed "outside" of the Marvel Universe. Most of the Eternals already had MU counterparts in the form of the Greek Gods. When Roy Thomas brought the Eternals into the MU proper there was some hand waving about folks confusing the Olympians from Olympus and the Eternals from Olympia. It's unlikely that Starlin and Kirby intended a connection between the two.
The Inhumans are an even earlier take by Kirby on the "aliens as Gods" concept.
Probably not. At least, not in anything done by James Gunn.