Marco Palmieri's Star Trek Projects

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  1. OCD Geek

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    The Trek novels and short stories that Marco Palmieri edited are highly regarded. I've even seen his name mentioned in the same breath as Gene Coon, Nicholas Meyer, Michael Piller and Ira Steven Behr. I want to try and read everything that Marco had a hand in. Am I missing anything? Thanks (and sorry) in advance.

    Deep Space Nine Relaunch: "Season Eight"
    series bible and pre-planned narrative by Marco Palmieri
    • Book I: Avatar, Book One (2001) S.D. Perry
    • Book II: Avatar, Book Two (2001) S.D. Perry
    • Book III: Section 31: Abyss (2001) Jeffrey Lang with David Weddle
    • Book IV: Gateways: Demons of Air and Darkness (2001) Keith R.A. DeCandido
    • Novella: Gateways: "Horn and Ivory" (2001) Keith R.A. DeCandido
    • Book V: Mission Gamma: Twilight (2002) David R. George III
    • Book VI: Mission Gamma: This Gray Spirit (2002) Heather Jarman
    • Book VII: Mission Gamma: Cathedral (2002) Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels
    • Book VIII: Mission Gamma: Lesser Evil (2002) Robert Simpson
    • Book IX: Rising Son (2003) S.D. Perry
    • Book X: Unity (2003) S.D. Perry

    Deep Space Nine Relaunch: "Season Nine"
    series bible and pre-planned narrative by Marco Palmieri
    • Books I-II: Worlds of Deep Space Nine: Cardassia/Andor (2004)
      • Cardassia: The Lotus Flower Una McCormack
      • Andor: Paradigm Heather Jarman
    • Books III-IV: Worlds of Deep Space Nine: Trill/Bajor (2005)
      • Trill: Unjoined Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels
      • Bajor: Fragments and Omens J. Noah Kym
    • Books V-VI: Worlds of Deep Space Nine: Ferenginar/The Dominion (2005)
      • Ferenginar: Satisfaction Not Guaranteed Keith R.A. DeCandido
      • The Dominion: Olympus Descending David R. George III
    • Book VII: Warpath (2006) David Mack
    • Book VIII: Fearful Symmetry (2008) Olivia Woods
    • Book IX: The Soul Key (2009) Olivia Woods

    Deep Space Nine Relaunch (side stories)
    • The Lives of Dax (1999)
      • "Second Star to the Right..." Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens
      • "First Steps" Kristine Kathryn Rusch
      • "Dead Man's Hand" Jeffrey Lang
      • "Old Souls" Michael Jan Friedman
      • "Sins of the Mother" S.D. Perry
      • "Infinity" Susan Wright
      • "Allegro Ouroboros in D Minor" S.D. Perry and Robert Simpson
      • "The Music Between the Notes" Steven Barnes
      • "Reflections" L.A. Graf
      • "...And Straight on 'til Morning" Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens
    • Prophecy and Change (2003)
      • "Revisited, Part One" Anonymous (an uncredited Palmieri?)
      • "Ha'mara" Kevin G. Summers
      • "The Orb of Opportunity" Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels
      • "Broken Oaths" Keith R.A. DeCandido
      • "...Loved I Not Honor More" Christopher L. Bennett
      • "Three Sides to Every Story" Terri Osborne
      • "The Devil You Know" Heather Jarman
      • "Foundlings" Jeffrey Lang
      • "Chiaroscuro" Geoffrey Thorne
      • "Face Value" Una McCormack
      • "The Calling" Andrew J. Robinson
      • "Revisited, Part Two" Anonymous (an uncredited Palmieri?)
    • The Left Hand of Destiny (2 volumes) 2003 Jeffrey Lang with J.G. Hertzler
    • Hollow Men (2005) Una McCormack
    • Klingon Empire: A Burning House (2008) Keith R.A. DeCandido
    • The Never-Ending Sacrifice (2009) Una McCormack

    Vanguard

    series bible and pre-planned narrative by Marco Palmieri and David Mack
    • Book I: Harbinger (2005) David Mack
    • Book II: Summon the Thunder (2006) Dayton Ward and Kevin Dilmore
    • Book III: Reap the Whirlwind (2007) David Mack
    • Book IV: Open Secrets (2009) Dayton Ward Marco's last Vanguard novel
    • Book V: Precipice (2009) David Mack
    • Anthology: Declassified (2011)
      • "Almost Tomorrow" Dayton Ward
      • "Hard News" Kevin Dilmore
      • "The Ruins of Noble Men" Marco Palmieri
      • "The Stars Look Down" David Mack
    • Book VI: What Judgments Come (2011) Dayton Ward and Kevin Dilmore
    • Book VII: Storming Heaven (2012) David Mack

    Destiny (TNG/Titan with some DS9 and Enterprise characters)
    (co-edited with Margaret Clark) David Mack
    • Book I: Gods of Night (2008)
    • Book II: Mere Mortals (2008)
    • Book III: Lost Souls (2008)

    Voyager Relaunch: "Season Nine"
    series bible and pre-planned narrative by Marco Palmieri and Kirsten Beyer; written by Kirsten Beyer
    • Book I: Full Circle (2009)
    • Book II: Unworthy (2009) Marco's last Voyager novel
    • Book III: Children of the Storm (2011)
    • Book IV: The Eternal Tide (2012)
    • Book V: Protectors (2014)
    • Book VI: Acts of Contrition (2014)
    • Book VII: Atonement (2015)
    • Book VIII: A Pocket Full of Lies (2016)
    • Book IX: Architects of Infinity (2017)
    • Book X: To Lose the Earth (2017)

    The Original Series
    • Section 31: Cloak (2001) S.D. Perry
    • Crucible David R. George III (Not part of the Lit-verse.)
      • Book I: McCoy: Provenance of Shadows (2005)
      • Book II: Spock: The Fire and the Rose (2005)
      • Book III: Kirk: The Star to Every Wandering (2006)
    • Constellations (2006)
      • "First, Do No Harm" Dayton Ward and Kevin Dilmore
      • "The Landing Party" Robert Greenberger
      • "Official Record" Howard Weinstein
      • "Fracture" Jeff Bond
      • "Chaotic Response" Stuart Moore
      • "As Others See Us" Christopher L. Bennett
      • "See No Evil" Jill Sherwin
      • "The Leader" David Galanter
      • "Ambition" William Leisner
      • "Devices and Desires" Kevin Lauderdale
      • "Where Everybody Knows Your Name" Jeffrey Lang
      • "Make-Believe" Allyn Gibson

    The Original Series: Motion Picture Era

    • Ex Machina (2004) Christopher L. Bennett
    • Excelsior: Forged in Fire (2007) Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels

    The Next Generation
    • Section 31: Rogue (2001) Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels
    • Immortal Coil (2002) Jeffrey Lang
    • The Battle of Betazed (2002) Susan Kearney and Charlotte Douglas
    • Engines of Destiny (2005) Gene DeWeese
    • The Sky's the Limit (2005)
      • "Meet with Triumph and Disaster" Michael Schuster and Steve Mollmann
      • "Acts of Compassion" Dayton Ward and Kevin Dilmore
      • "Redshift" Richard C. White
      • "Among the Clouds" Scott Pearson
      • "Thinking of You" Greg Cox
      • "Turncoats" Susan Shwartz
      • "Ordinary Days" James Swallow
      • "'Twould Ring the Bells of Heaven" Amy Sisson
      • "Friends with the Sparrows" Christopher L. Bennett
      • "Suicide Note" Geoff Trowbridge
      • "Four Lights" Keith R.A. DeCandido
      • "'Til Death" Bob Ingersoll and Thom Zahler
      • "On the Spot" David A. McIntee
      • "Trust Yourself When All Men Doubt You" Michael Schuster and Steve Mollmann

    Titan
    • Book I: Taking Wing (2005) Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels
    • Book II: The Red King (2005) Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels
    • Book III: Orion's Hounds (2005) Christopher L. Bennett
    • Book IV: Sword of Damocles (2007) Geoffrey Thorne
    • Book V: Over a Torrent Sea (2009) Christopher L. Bennett
    • Book VI: Synthesis (2009) James Swallow

    Voyager

    • Section 31: Shadow (2001) Dean Wesley Smith and Kristine Kathryn Rusch
    • Distant Shores (2005)
      • "Da Capo al Fine, Part 1" Heather Jarman
      • "Command Code" Robert Greenberger
      • "Winds of Change" Kim Sheard
      • "Talent Night" Jeffrey Lang
      • "Letting Go" Keith R.A. DeCandido
      • "Closure" James Swallow
      • "The Secret Heart of Zolaluz" Robert T. Jeschonek
      • "Isabo's Shirt" Kirsten Beyer
      • "Brief Candle" Christopher L. Bennett
      • "Eighteen Minutes" Terri Osborne
      • "Or the Tiger" Geoffrey Thorne
      • "Bottomless" Ilsa J. Bick
      • "Da Capo al Fine, Part 2" Heather Jarman
    • String Theory
      • Book I: Cohesion (2005) Jeffrey Lang
      • Book II: Fusion (2005) Kirsten Beyer
      • Book III: Evolution (2006) Heather Jarman

    The Lost Era
    • The Sundered (2003) Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels TOS/Forged in Fire sequel
    • Serpents Among the Ruins (2003) David R. George III DS9 Relaunch prequel
    • The Art of the Impossible (2003) Keith R.A. DeCandido DS9 Relaunch prequel
    • Well of Souls (2003) Ilsa J. Bick
    • Deny Thy Father (2003) Jeff Mariotte TNG prequel
    • Catalyst of Sorrows (2004) Margaret Wander Bonanno TOS sequel & TNG/DS9/VOY prequel
    • The Buried Age (2007) Christopher L. Bennett TNG prequel
    • Terok Nor DS9 prequel
      • Book I: Day of the Vipers (2008) James Swallow
      • Book II: Night of the Wolves (2008) S.D. Perry and Britta Dennison
      • Book III: Dawn of the Eagles (2008) S.D. Perry and Britta Dennison

    Articles of the Federation (2005) Keith R.A. DeCandido
    A Singular Destiny (2009) Keith R.A. DeCandido

    Mirror Universe: Obsidian Alliances (2007)
    • Deep Space Nine: Saturn's Children David Mack (as Sarah Shaw)
    • Voyager: The Mirror-Scaled Serpent Keith R.A. DeCandido
    • New Frontier: Cutting Ties Peter David

    Myriad Universes (Not part of the Lit-verse.)
    • Infinity's Prism (2008)
      • The Original Series/Enterprise: A Less Perfect Union William Leisner
      • Voyager: Places of Exile Christopher L. Bennett
      • Deep Space Nine: Seeds of Dissent James Swallow
    • Echoes and Refractions (2008)
      • The Original Series: The Chimes at Midnight Geoff Trowbridge
      • Deep Space Nine: A Gutted World Keith R.A. DeCandido
      • The Next Generation: Brave New World Chris Roberson
     
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  2. Stevil2001

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    This is a potentially interesting project.

    Marco was also editor of the first two Myriad Universes volumes (and originated the third-- he picked the stories, but wasn't with S&S by the time they were completed). He also edited one of the two Mirror Universe three-in-ones (not sure which). I think he originated Seven Deadly Sins.
     
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    The second one.
     
  4. ryan123450

    ryan123450 Commodore Commodore

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    I have nothing to add to this topic other than to opine that Marco being let go from his job as Star Trek editor was probably the worst event in the 50 year history of Star Trek novels. I don't think that's an exageration in the least.

    And certainly the Treklit community's behind the scenes interaction with Pocket has taken a huge drop since the days when Marco frequented this board and always kept us in the loop with upcoming novel information.
     
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  5. Thrawn

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    A few things to add:

    - Marco also finished up the third book and edited the fourth book in KRAD's Gorkon/Klingon Empire series
    - the novel Forged In Fire, which is technically TOS but it's about the same crew as Lost Era: Sundered so I always in my head put it at the beginning of Lost Era
    - the Voyager anniversary String Theory trilogy
    - the TOS anniversary Crucible trilogy
     
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  6. Greg Cox

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    And this is where I mention that Marco is now an editor at Tor Books, where he has acquired and edited many acclaimed and successful projects.
     
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  7. Thrawn

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    Yeah. Max Gladstone and Brian Staveley's series, especially, are just amazing.
     
  8. JD

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    I've been wondering for a while, is there a way to find out who edits specific books? I know editors tend to work with specific types of books, so I've often wondered if finding books edited by the same people would be a good way to find stuff I might like.
     
  9. Greg Cox

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    That can be tricky with book editors, although the acknowledgments pages of individual books are a good place to look. Where it can get messy is if one editor acquires the book, another editor is assigned to edit it, and, conceivably, a third editor inherits if the first or second editor move on . . ..which has been known to happen.

    Trek example: John Ordover hired me to write the 3rd Khan book,and was heavily involved in plotting the outline, but John had moved on by the time I finally finished writing the book, so it was Ed Schlesinger who actually edited the manuscript. (Ditto for the second UNDERWORLD novel.)
     
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  10. Stevil2001

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    During the Dark Times at S&S, Myriad Universes: Shattered Light had four different editors from start to finish!

    The only Marco-edited Tor book I've read thus far is The Traitor Baru Cormorant, which was very good. Keep meaning to get around to Max Gladstone's stuff.

    If you like Marco, he bigs up the work he edits on facebook a lot; that's why I ended up wanting to read The Traitor.
     
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    Just to clarify the OP's list, Una McCormack's Hollow Men is not part of the DS9 relaunch in any way. It's story is a sequel to Season 6's In The Pale Moonlight and takes place before His Way.

    Even the majority of The Never-Ending Sacrifice takes place during the TV series of Deep Space Nine.
     
  12. Idran

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    The entirety of Lives of Dax is set before the end of DS9 but the Audrid story still ties it heavily into the DS9 Relaunch. Those two books are similar; they're both tied strongly to the themes and concepts of the Relaunch.
     
  13. Christopher

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    Except for the Ezri frame story, which is set just after the series finale.
     
  14. Idran

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    Oh, so it is; I was remembering it as being set during S7.

    95-ish% of Lives of Dax, then.
     
  15. JD

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    Doesn't a new host for one of the joined Trills from the Joran story also pop up in the DS9 Relaunch? I haven't read the story myself, but I think I remember reading about it and seeing a name pop up in that story and one or two of the DS9R books.
     
  16. Christopher

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    More like 87% by page count. Or 8/9 by number of hosts.


    Yes, Hiziki Gard from Mission: Gamma, Unity, and Trill: Unjoined is the successor host to Verjyl Gard from "Allegra Ouroboros in D Minor."
     
  17. Idran

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    Haha, close enough :p

    (Though in my defense on the latter, "by hosts" isn't fair since Ezri had both the framing story and the "how Ezri got the Dax symbiont" story.)
     
  18. Christopher

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    Oh, I see what you mean. I was considering distinct stories by page count and listing in the contents, but the post-finale Ezri story had a pre-finale flashback within it. So that would put it at more like 92% pre-finale.
     
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  19. OCD Geek

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    Cool! Thanks again everyone. I've updated my list.

    Given that Shattered Light and Seven Deadly Sins weren't released until two years after Marco's layoff (and went through several editors before publication), I think I'll keep them off the list for now. Same with the Gorkon novel Enemy Territory since it didn't originate with him. Did Marco edit James Swallow's Titan novel Synthesis, or was I wrong in my assumption?

    I'll have to check his Tor stuff out some time. Does he oversee the website too? I mostly frequent BirthMoviesDeath and The AV Club, but I've found myself over at Tor occasionally. Their re-watches and Doctor Who guides, many of which were done by KRAD, are terrific.

    Oh, and @Thrawn your Lit-verse Flowchart is an amazing thing of beauty. This list making geek with OCD tendencies is in awe. Thank you for putting that together.

    It's true that Hollow Men doesn't touch on the post-DS9 finale timeline like the rest do to varying degrees, but it's the only other DS9 novel overseen by Marco. The DS9 Relaunch (even more so than Vanguard and the Voyager Re-Relaunch) was Marco's baby and (unlike those aforementioned projects) pre-planned solely by him. Grouping it with the other Relaunch side stories might not actually be right, but it felt right to me.


    Despite not reading any of it yet, what fascinates me most about Marco's Trek run is how ambitious it all is. Especially in light of him seemingly coming out of nowhere. At the time he had only edited The Lives of Dax (an anthology based on a then unpopular red headed stepchild of the franchise), apparently saw what Andrew J. Robinson did with A Stitch in Time and said to himself, "F--- it. Paramount's never going to use anyone but Worf in future Trek movies and series anyway. I'm making an eighth season of DS9." That's impressive as hell. Marco was clearly a fan of the DS9 too. He must have had a blast.


    I just picked up the first four novels and one novella of DS9: "Season Eight" through the Twist of Faith e-book. It was only $8 on Amazon, which was a hell of a deal. Since money's a little tight right now I want to focus on the best that Marco's Trek run had to offer before eventually checking out the rest. Going by previous best-of threads these seem to be the universally considered cream of the crop:

    Deep Space Nine Relaunch: "Season Eight" (Avatar-Unity)

    DS9 Relaunch side stories
    • The Lives of Dax & Prophecy and Change anthologies
    • A Stitch in Time (Edited by Margaret Clark. Acclaimed, important and clearly inspired Marco's DS9 run.)
    • The Left Hand of Destiny
    • Hollow Men
    • The Never-Ending Sacrifice

    DS9 Relaunch prequels
    • The Lost Era: Serpents Among the Ruins
    • The Lost Era: The Art of the Impossible
    • The Lost Era: Terok Nor: Day of the Vipers

    Vanguard

    Voyager Relaunch: "Season Nine"

    The Lost Era: The Buried Age
    The Next Generation: Immortal Coil
    The Destiny Trilogy


    It also seems that the most beloved post-Marco Trek novels are David Mack's Immortal Coil sequel The Cold Equations Trilogy, Mack's Bashir novels (Typhon Pact: Zero Sum Game, The Fall: A Ceremony of Losses, Section 31: Disavowed and the upcoming Section 31: Control) and Una McCormack's further Garak/Cardassia novels (The Fall: The Crimson Shadow and the upcoming Enigma Tales). I'll have to check them out someday too.
     
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  20. Christopher

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    No, Tor.com has its own separate staff. And Marco is just one of numerous fiction editors Tor/Forge has; I think it's the biggest SF/fantasy publisher in the country.