Superman should have more imagination then...he could have been battling himself across the globe....
MAN OF STEEL - Grading & Discussion
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I imagine the budget had something to do with that. The computer battle later in the movie really was a huge let down after we got the mirror match.
We did get sort of a flying around the Earth fight in Superman IV between Superman and Nuclear Man, but no one gives a crap about that fight due to how lame it was.
Despite the film's obvious flaws, I actually enjoy the smaller-scale drama in Supes III - the junkyard battle, the chemical plant ... made his efforts seem more ... personal.
Dammit... you people are making me want to watch Superman III. What are you bringing me to?!
It is more personal. When you can see the actor doing the scene and see his face, his emotions, and his body going through the motions as opposed to CGI figures flying past so fast you can barely discern them, you connect with the character in a more complete manner, IMHO. Plus, Reeve was a skilled actor so it was easy to connect with the character's inner turmoil during that scene.
CGI wouldn't have been an issue in 1983...and I don't consider Chris Reeve throwing tires at himself to be the pinnacle of his acting career.
You've got me...Superman III was robbed at the Oscars...robbed!
Greg is still right though. The X-men didn't really "catch on" till after the Claremont-Byrne era.
You know, I knew I should have looked that up . . .
And speaking of "Singer can't do teams," one of things I really admire about X2 is the way the film manages to handle multiple characters and subplots. A lot of superhero movies fall apart the minute they tackle more than one villain, but X2 does a nice job of weaving a whole mob of mutants into the story in an efficient and coherent manner. Heck,even Pyro gets a story arc. And most of the characters get a nice little moment or grace note of their own.
Sure, inevitably, some characters get slighted (sorry, Cyke), and, of course, Wolverine is going to get more screen time than Iceman or whomever, but overall it's an impressive job of traffic directing!
The point of the scene wasn't Superman throwing tires at himself, Old Mixer Come on, guy. Inner turmoil, angst, despair. All that good super hero suffering stuff.
I imagine starring on Broadway with Katharine Hepburn was the pinnacle for Reeve. When the Broadway critics and Katharine Hepburn think you're good, you know you're having a good year. To think he was actually doing a soap opera the year before.
Talk about coming up in the world. Love of Life. There's actually youtube clips of him from it.
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If Richard Pryor and the "comedy" had been removed from Superman III, it would have been a much better movie. I really liked the Clark returns to Smallville aspect and his relationship with Lana and the smaller scale of the script. If the comedy had come strictly from a Prankster style character and left out the silly slapstick, it would have come across a little better.
This was also the first Superman I saw in the theater and I remember some of the special effects really wowing me as a teenager.
This was also the first Superman I saw in the theater and I remember some of the special effects really wowing me as a teenager.
For 1978, the effects were pretty good.
It received a Special Achievement Academy Award for its visual effects.
Actually, I'd say the police cars are what's most dated. 
Funny. He's the only actor to play the part that I COULD believe was Superman.
Don't get me wrong, Cavill was good. The effects were great. I just didn't believe all the primal screams and angst and stuff. He was playing Superman, but I didn't think he owned it. I didn't believe that he was Superman.
The story was ... not right. I just didn't get it. The movie left me empty.
In contrast, back in 1978 Christopher Reeve owned that role. He made me believe a man could fly.
