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MAN OF STEEL: Another look

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Yeah, and he's not even really Superman yet. He's a young guy thrown into extreme violence, doing his best to cope with the situation.
That whole idea doesn't see, right. If Goyer wanted to write Super,man, he should have written Superman.

You know, write a character we can be proud to show of to younger generations.

Like this baby?
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXAva_gO8Qk[/yt]

This little guy is precious and gives the kind of reaction you hope a character inspires.
 
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Yeah, and he's not even really Superman yet. He's a young guy thrown into extreme violence, doing his best to cope with the situation.
That whole idea doesn't see, right. If Goyer wanted to write Super,man, he should have written Superman.

You know, write a character we can be proud to show of to younger generations.

Like this baby?
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXAva_gO8Qk[/yt]

This little guy is precious and gives the kind of reaction you hope a character inspires.

Although I wouldn't show him the rest of the movie with all of the death, destruction & violence. Or the part where Superman y'know, snaps Zod's neck. :p
 
This little guy is precious and gives the kind of reaction you hope a character inspires.
Yep. And anyone who responds with "now show the baby Superman snapping Zod's neck" should know it puts them in the company of a legion of mouth-breathing YouTube commenters.

Edit: And you've already gone and said it, JA! :nyah:
 
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Yeah, and he's not even really Superman yet. He's a young guy thrown into extreme violence, doing his best to cope with the situation.
That whole idea doesn't see, right. If Goyer wanted to write Super,man, he should have written Superman.

You know, write a character we can be proud to show of to younger generations.

Like this baby?
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXAva_gO8Qk[/yt]

This little guy is precious and gives the kind of reaction you hope a character inspires.

:) Awesome video. I know just how that little guys feels.
 
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Yeah, and he's not even really Superman yet. He's a young guy thrown into extreme violence, doing his best to cope with the situation.
That whole idea doesn't see, right. If Goyer wanted to write Super,man, he should have written Superman.

You know, write a character we can be proud to show of to younger generations.

Exactly! The whole argument doesn't fly with me. Reeve's Superman didn't have to "learn" how to be a hero, he just was.
 
Reeve's Superman didn't have to "learn" how to be a hero, he just was.
He spent a great deal of time learning to be a hero under Jor-El's tutelage before he saw any action as Superman, and then he eased into things, taking on small-time crooks and rescuing cats from trees.
 
I don't need a tutorial to tell me how to help people.

Superman saved planet Earth from a genocidal maniac; who had the inclination and ability to kill every living thing on the planet.

It's factually inaccurate to say Superman didn't help or save anyone in MOS.
 
I'm less bothered about Superman not thwarting the destruction, considering he was out of his league. There was just no time spent on the aftermath, and I said earlier the destruction wrought even after the World Engine was destroyed felt perfunctory. I suppose Zod just giving up would have been anticlimactic, but an extended hand-to-hand fight with him felt totally unnecessary.
 
Reeve's Superman didn't have to "learn" how to be a hero, he just was.
He spent a great deal of time learning to be a hero under Jor-El's tutelage before he saw any action as Superman, and then he eased into things, taking on small-time crooks and rescuing cats from trees.

Yep. In the Donner film, Clark looks to be about 18 when he travels to Antartica. He looks at least 30 when he emerges from the Fortress as Superman.
 
Reeve's Superman didn't have to "learn" how to be a hero, he just was.
He spent a great deal of time learning to be a hero under Jor-El's tutelage before he saw any action as Superman, and then he eased into things, taking on small-time crooks and rescuing cats from trees.

Yep. In the Donner film, Clark looks to be about 18 when he travels to Antartica. He looks at least 30 when he emerges from the Fortress as Superman.
I agree with Aldo. But sure, like anyone else there needs to be a learning period for anyone. The smartest person in the world still needed to go to school.

But in Man of Steel, he learned almost nothing from Jor El save for a Disney World summary of the history of Krypton, and some time making sure the suit fits fine.
 
Reeve's Superman didn't have to "learn" how to be a hero, he just was.

Which is both nonsensical and undramatic.

Yes, you do have to learn how to help people - and to do something useful in a lot of situations (as distinct from making oneself feel good about trying to help), one needs a lot more than a "tutorial."

The desire to do good may come naturally, but actually making a difference rather than ineffectually floundering or making a crisis situation worse most often requires knowledge and experience. My town's fire department doesn't hand out coats and helmets to whoever shows up on Monday morning with a strong innate desire to help out.

You know, the first time I see Supes do nonsense in a movie like, oh, reassembling a collapsing skyscraper at super-speed the way he would in a half century-old comic I'm going to laugh out loud.
 
The length of action scenes is utterly beside the point, because a well-constructed and well-paced action scene will never feel its length, while a tedious and dull one will feel twice as long (if not longer.)

The final action sequence in MOS, to me, felt very long and overdone. The prior action scenes were fine, in my opinion. It was just the final fight with Zod that seemed to go on far too long.

True our perception of time can change, if we are enjoying something time can seem to fly past if we're not it can seem to crawl.

With regards to MoS, I would have been happier if the battle sequences had ended after defeating the world engine. Without the Superman/Zod battle but that's just me.
 
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