Maltz WAS Killed After All
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Maltz was probably already back in Klingon custody by the time the Whale Probe Crisis erupted three months later. Since no state of war existed between the Federation and the Empire at this stage in time and "a peace treaty was being negotiated" between them as per Ambassador Kamarag's lecture to the Federation Council at the start of the fourth movie, I imagine Maltz spent a brief time in Vulcan hands before the Klingon consulate or embassy on Vulcan took custody of him for the trip back to Qo'noS.
Wouldn't Kamarag's "while they negotiate peace" / "there shall be no peace" thing rather be indicative of there being a de facto state of war (just with a possible ceasefire to allow for the negotiations)?
Of course, prisoners of war could still be exchanged, or given away as gestures of goodwill or exotic birthday gifts, even if a formal state of war existed.
Timo Saloniemi
Of course, prisoners of war could still be exchanged, or given away as gestures of goodwill or exotic birthday gifts, even if a formal state of war existed.
Timo Saloniemi
Think "cold war" and STVI. Probably the state of things since at least the time of the whole Organian scuffle a few years prior.
How about this for a theory...He defected to the Federation, joined Starfleet and took a position with the JAG Corps. Hehe
Obviously, Maltz did go back in time with them, escaped, had reconstructive surgery, and became a lawyer in some sort of night court.
Come on, that joke's bad but no one else was going to make it? And yes, I know the timing doesn't quite work out on that one.
You beat me to it. Damn.
Actually, Maltz traveled back in time, had reconstructive surgery to look like a human, then went to Boston and worked at a law firm, where he replaced a guy who looked a lot like Odo and worked alongside a guy who looked a lot like Kirk.
I worked way too hard for that one, didn't I? Sorry....
I worked way too hard for that one, didn't I? Sorry....
MeanJoePhaser
Admiral
Makes more sense then him joining Black Sheep Squadron. "Today is a good day to fly!"
After all, Kirk is capable of being cold blooded and summarily whacking someone but once he, Spock and the other senior officers were safe aboard the Bird-of-Prey he had no rational or moral reason to kill Maltz in any sort of cold blood. He was outnumbered by about six to one if you count Spock and had been disarmed by Sulu or Scotty.
Just to speculate, we have no confirmation that Maltz would have been the only surviving crew member up there after Kirk had blown up the boarding party, shot one of the planetside guards and kicked Kruge to his fiery doom. There might have been another Klingon to operate the transporters, for example, one that Kirk quickly overcame - explaining how Maltz on the bridge seemed oblivious to the fact that the human enemy, not his own commander, had beamed aboard, and then beamed up all his compatriots as well!
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
As much as I enjoy ST3, that scene always bugs me when I watch it. Kirk would have been royally fucked had the Kruge and Maltz had some sort of pass code phrase in place to confirm who they were before beam up; like Kirk and Spock had in TOS. Or if Maltz had simply realized "Hey, that doesn't sound like the Commander."
TheLonelySquire
Vice Admiral
Well, he surely wouldn't be turned over to ICE as an illegal alien!
Perhaps you got lost. TNZ is thataway...
But it would sure as hell force the feds to spend more money on that force field along the Rio Grande.
Again... TNZ is down the hall, guys. It's the home of the poo-slinging monkeys. 
That's a good interpertation that I never considered, but the dialouge kind of backs it up - when he sees the Genesis tape, he says "Interesting - they can create a planet", then Kruge cuts him off and goes on a rant. Maltz probably should have killed Kruge per the "Klingon code" or whatever, and took over the ship.
Again... TNZ is down the hall, guys. It's the home of the poo-slinging monkeys.
I resent that remark!
For the record, I eat my own poo.
^If you ask nicely in QSF, maybe you can have a coprophagy forum in which to discuss that sort of thing.
^If you ask nicely in QSF, maybe you can have a coprophagy forum in which to discuss that sort of thing.
That's okay. I'll pass on this one.
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