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Luke's actions in "The Last Jedi" makes no sense.

I think I read a summery somewhere, and honestly while it sounded like a more logical follow-up to TLJ than RotS was, it didn't exactly blow my hair back either. Very bland, almost paint-by-numbers feel to it. Still, even with the best script in the world I'm not convinced it would have been substantially better than what we got.

While I haven't seen his full filmography, I've seen enough of Colin Trevorrow's work to know that he's really not a very good director, and has *terrible* storytelling instincts. On top of all that, word from the Jurassic sets is that that guy was very much NOT a team player, which is simply incompatible with how LF operates.

JJA for all his lack of originality and over dependence on that "mystery box" nonsense, is at least talented when it comes to knowing where to point the camera and how to get good performances from his actors.

Personally I would have preferred they just delayed the movie a year or two until they could get all their ducks in a row, maybe gotten Johnson or Edwards to come back as both of those two clearly knew how to play ball and seemed to have a much firmer grasp of the franchise's underpinnings. Alas.

Agree with all your points. But Abrams himself is also notoriously "not a team player", but obviously has far, far more clout in H'wood than Trevorrow.
 
I was thinking if Luke had stayed on Ahch-to to mope around when Rey left, but then at a later point he had a change of heart and had to decide if he would try to go meet up with Rey and the others in person, or if there wasn't enough time so he had to do the Force-projection thing.

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I was thinking if Luke had stayed on Ahch-to to mope around when Rey left, but then at a later point he had a change of heart and had to decide if he would try to go meet up with Rey and the others in person, or if there wasn't enough time so he had to do the Force-projection thing.

Kor
The whole point of exiling himself was that he *couldn't* get off the planet; which is why he dumped his ship in the sea when he got there. Yes, tRoS brought it back, and it's supremely stupid. Nevertheless such was the intent when they filmed TLJ; Luke reached out to the force for the first time in years, had a change of heart and got the the cliff just in time to see the Falcon fly off. So his force projection stunt was the only way he felt he could help.
 
Luke reached out to the force for the first time in years, had a change of heart and got the the cliff just in time to see the Falcon fly off. So his force projection stunt was the only way he felt he could help.

Well, not quite. Rey and Luke fight. Rey says they should leave together to save Ben. Luke declines. Rey flies off and Luke watches her go. He refuses to go with her.

Then Luke decides to burn the Jedi books, has a chat with Yoda and THEN changes his mind.
 
There is something else that doesn't make sense to me. If Luke had really contemplated killing Kylo Ren, why didn't the latter tell his parents instead of laying waste to Luke's Jedi Academy? A Force sensitive Leia would have realized he was telling the truth. Both she and Han would have estranged themselves from Luke.
 
There is something else that doesn't make sense to me. If Luke had really contemplated killing Kylo Ren, why didn't the latter tell his parents instead of laying waste to Luke's Jedi Academy? A Force sensitive Leia would have realized he was telling the truth. Both she and Han would have estranged themselves from Luke.
How easy is it to admit failure?
 
The more I think about it, the more I think the Sequel Trilogy was very much like the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy in quality trajectory (a 1st movie that is a bit rough round the edges but compelling, a 2nd movie that's much deeper than given credit for, and a sloppy 3rd movie that was borne out of studio/creative conflict).
 
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The more I think about it, the more I think Sequel Trilogy was very much like Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy in quality trajectory (a 1st movie that is a bit rough round the edges but compelling, a 2nd movie that's much deeper than given credit for, and a sloppy 3rd movie that was borne out of studio/creative conflict).
Same, which was really my experience with a lot of trilogies through the 2000s.
 
There is something else that doesn't make sense to me. If Luke had really contemplated killing Kylo Ren, why didn't the latter tell his parents instead of laying waste to Luke's Jedi Academy? A Force sensitive Leia would have realized he was telling the truth. Both she and Han would have estranged themselves from Luke.
I suspect Ben Solo probably felt abandoned by his parents when they allowed Luke to take him to the Jedi Academy, and therefore didn't feel he could trust them. After all, from Ben's perspective, if Luke just attempted to kill him, how does he know his parents aren't involved?
 
Remember, the whole reason Luke acted the way he did was that Ben was already well on the path towards murdering a bunch of people. Luke's threat was what pushed him over the edge, but he was on the edge. Of course he wouldn't go back to his parents; his mind had already been poisoned, and Luke standing over him with a weapon was all the proof he needed that all the so-called "good guys" he'd grown up around were secret monsters and needed to be destroyed by someone overtly monstrous (the Star Wars movies really need to put some more good intentions into the paving of their road to hell).
 
As well as the fact that Snoke and Palpatine where whispering in to his mind seeds of doubt. Doubt can be very dangerous, because the mind tends to fill in the blanks and usually not in a helpful way. So he had a push towards not trusting Luke, and then came Luke's visions, his reaction, and Ben's mind filled in the rest.

"Betrayed!"

Which is an interesting theme running through the ST is the idea of loyalty and betrayal.
 
I'd genuinely agree that seeing the X-Wing under water was supposed to imply that Luke had marooned himself, but given ESB gave us an X-Wing submerged in a swamp that was still flyable there was always an obvious get out. Would have been better to show the ship in pieces as if Luke landed and dismantled it!
 
Although, in Rise of Skywalker, the X-Wing had spent something like six or seven years underwater. I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be operable after that.

But then, I guess the joke's on me debating what should or shouldn't be possible with a fictional space fighter.
 
We have pretty much one data point to work from, so all the evidence so far says that Star Wars space fighters can survive for years underwater just fine. They didn't even need to fix it up with that spare S-foil wing that Luke used as a door.
 
I think Rian Johnson simultaneously overestimated and underestimated the audience by showing the X-Wing underwater. A normal person goes "yep, no getting off the island in that" whereas a nutter goes "getting off the island in an X-Wing confirmed because 5 films ago an X-Wing got wet and was fine!"
 
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