Luke's actions in "The Last Jedi" makes no sense.

[Kamen Rider Blade]

If Luke knew that he needed to use his "Force Projection" to distract Kylo Ren and the First Order to help his Rebel friends escape.

Why didn't Luke just hop in his X-wing, fly to the other side of the Rebel Base / Ice Mountain Cave near the exit where the Rebels would've popped out of.

Force Project across several dozen kilometers past the Mountain Range instead of several hundred to thousands of light years across the galaxy?

Luke knew when he needed to help his friends, and we know Force Users have Pre-Cognition to some degree.

The only reason Luke dies of Force Exhaustion is because the writers were stupid and wanted him to die for the sake of drama.

Instead of using Luke's power in a more logical way and living on to help the Rebels escape.

Luke could've easily Force Projected past a mountain range instead of having to cover hundreds to hundreds of thousands of light years.

That would've been FAR less strenuous and he wouldn't have to die.

Then Luke could've escaped with the Rebellion and be alive and kicking for the next movie.

 

[Gaith]

As hard as I am on TLJ, I never thought for a moment that Johnson intended for that X-Wing to still be operational after decades underwater. That was some Abrams WTF-ery that came later, and, given that Rey brings her own ship back to Planet Ireland, it was completely unnecessary, to boot.

 

[Sketcher]

Assuming Luke got to the salt planet in time, he would've gotten chased down by TIE Fighters like Rey did. Even worse, Kylo Ren would've diverted all resources to killing Luke like he tried by pummeling the salt ground with AT-HHs. Luke would be a dead man faster in person than force projecting.

Also it sure made for a more inspiring story to the galaxy that Luke Skywalker took fire from AT-HH's and fought Kylo Ren without a scratch vs... shot down on sight piloting a rackety old X-wing.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

We have no way to know if being on the same planet would've made any difference to the outcome.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Weren't the First Order in complete Disarray trying to save the remnants of their fleet after the LightSpeed Ramming attack?

I doubt they would have time to worry about one lone X-Wing popping out of Hyper Space to land on the Icey Salt Planet.

And Luke could've popped out of Hyper Space on the other side of the Planet where there were no First Order Tie Fighters and landed secretly near the exit to the Ice Cave that the Rebels would've exited from.

Rian Johnson could've left the X-Wing to be parked in a cave instead of Under Water.

Ergo, the X-Wing could've been more useful.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

He didn't want to have the X-Wing in a cave, he wanted it underwater to imply that Luke couldn't use it to leave the planet.

 

[Tosk]

I don't even understand the complaint. Luke died because the screenwriter wanted him to. Why would they write a reason for him to survive?

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I don't even understand the complaint. Luke died because the screenwriter wanted him to. Why would they write a reason for him to survive?

What's the logical reason behind trying to kill off Luke Skywalker?

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The sacrifical death of the mentor is a typical part of the hero's journey, forcing the protagonist to step up and complete the rest of their quest on their own without their assistance and guidance. While Luke was around there was always the hope that he was going walk out with his laser sword and take on the First Order single-handedly, but without him it's all up to the new heroes.

 

[Campe]

Luke’s sacrifice makes sense to me from a story perspective. He couldn’t leave. Whether that was because of the X-Wing being meant to be unflyable (thanks, JJ) or a genuine fear from Luke getting involved in the battle and returning to the galactic stage. But Yoda convinced him he needed to help. So he did what he could to save the future of his sister and the Resistance at the cost of his life.

My issue is less with Luke instead wondering why Rey disappears for a better part of the last act of her own movie.

 

[Tosk]

The sacrifical death of the mentor is a typical part of the hero's journey, forcing the protagonist to step up and complete the rest of their quest on their own without their assistance and guidance.

And sometimes it's just because the writer realized that the character didn't have anything to do for the rest of the story anyway. Like Obi-Wan in Ep 4.

 

[Jedi Marso]

You can take the opening argument in this thread all the way to its logical conclusion: "Disney's action in greenlighting the script for TLJ makes no sense."

 

[fireproof78]

Weren't the First Order in complete Disarray trying to save the remnants of their fleet after the LightSpeed Ramming attack?

I doubt they would have time to worry about one lone X-Wing popping out of Hyper Space to land on the Icey Salt Planet.

So completely in disarray that they were able to mount and entire frontal assault on the Resistance holded up waiting for help. Of course they are tracking any signals, and any incoming traffic because that would be signs of the Resistance having friends. Any effort to get in would mean death. Luke's efforts are both mythologically appropriate, master sacrificing themselves for the next generation to stand on their own, and consistent with the themes of film, on the nature of the Jedi and the Force.

It's classic mythology 101. In line with Beowulf.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

It's classic mythology 101. In line with Beowulf.

Maybe it's time for writers to stop following classic story archetypes & formulas.

We don't always need to follow John Campbell's Hero's Journey story archetypes & structure.

 

[Shazam!]

Yeah, he should've come swooping down stradling the nose cone bare-chested whilst duel-wielding lightsabers and screaming.

No, what we got was the best thing in modern Star Wars.

 

[UssGlenn]

As hard as I am on TLJ, I never thought for a moment that Johnson intended for that X-Wing to still be operational after decades underwater.

Definitely inoperable. He's using part of its wing as a door in TLJ. No way he's flying it out in that movie.

 

[Shazam!]

No-one will ever be able to convince me the TROS wasn't Disney in panic-mode trying to pander to the men on the internet screaming at clouds crowd.

 

[Jax]

No-one will ever be able to convince me the TROS wasn't Disney in panic-mode trying to pander to the men on the internet screaming at clouds crowd.

It was also down to having Zero vision at the end of the day. All 3 movies had different writers and directors, which never made any sense to me. You should of had 1 team of writers and a single director work on this project.

2 year gaps instead of 3 year gaps were a mistake too though in Covid hindsight that would of hurt the 3rd movie Box Office as it would of been December 2021 unless pushed. The writing would of probably been better though.

 

[Shazam!]

The main problem is that ST isn't *about* anything. It's just 'and then this happened'. If the PT was how peace is lost, the OT about how peace is won, the ST should've been how peace is maintained. Ironically, rather than follow the OT template they would have been better served following the PT only this time showing how they've learned from the mistakes the Jedi made.

 

[fireproof78]

Maybe it's time for writers to stop following classic story archetypes & formulas.

We don't always need to follow John Campbell's Hero's Journey story archetypes & structure.

If it speaks to the audience why not?