Lucy Liu cast as Watson in CBS' Sherlock Holmes show

[DigificWriter]

^ It happened. I think people didn't comment on it because, in the grander scheme of things, its a small character nuance.

Since you weren't aware of this having happened though, here's the specifics:
Watson wakes up late and therefore misses checking Holmes out of rehab (she finds out he left on his own, effectively staging a jail break), so she goes to his house, getting there in time to see some nameless woman putting her clothes on through the open window. After the woman leaves, Watson goes inside and Holmes does his awkward 'pickup line' recitation that was in all the early trailers.

Watson introduces herself and confronts him about the rehab jail break and the woman, and Holmes is nonchalant and dismissive on both fronts, talking about the two things the way you'd talk about the weather, describing things with the woman exactly as Christopher said.

Watson later calls BS on the thing with the woman, using it to get Holmes to all but admit that he's running from the event - which she deduces involved a woman - that led to Holmes' drug crash in London.

 

[Greg Cox]

Didn't you catch the part in the pilot where Holmes said that while he found sex distasteful, he needed it as part of his "process," which was why the hooker was just leaving when Watson showed up? It's certainly not a love life, but it is a sex life.

No. That must have been when I was answering the phone.

But, wait! Bland, generic, safe CBS has the hero using a prositute? You must be pulling my leg. Giving Holmes a sex life is just too radical a break with tradition for the senior citizens who are the only ones who watch CBS.

And not just any prostitute, but a tattooed hussy whom (it's implied) specializes in bondage . . . .

 

[Professor Zoom]

Ah, I get it! You're pulling my leg!Surely if such a thing had happened people would have discussed this instead of babbling about bland and safe! It would have been a big deal.

Or perhaps it was such a tiny part of the episode, tossed in in an attempt to be "edgey" it wasn't of much consequence. Perhaps it was a big deal for network, but in this era of cable it came off as more cute than anything.

It would've been a big deal, and more interesting if Watson walked in in the middle of it.

 

[Greg Cox]

Ah, I get it! You're pulling my leg!Surely if such a thing had happened people would have discussed this instead of babbling about bland and safe! It would have been a big deal.

Or perhaps it was such a tiny part of the episode, tossed in in an attempt to be "edgey" it wasn't of much consequence. Perhaps it was a big deal for network, but in this era of cable it came off as more cute than anything.

It would've been a big deal, and more interesting if Watson walked in in the middle of it.

And, honestly, it's not all that unusual for detective shows. TV cops and detectives have been consorting with hookers and exotic dancers since at least Barney Miller. And let's not forget Grissom's dominatrix soulmate on CSI . . . . .

 

[iguana_tonante]

For any two characters in a fictional franchise (or across different franchises), you'll find someone who imagines them as lovers, no matter how insanely wrong a pairing it is.

One word: Wincest. Ugh.

 

[stj]

^ It happened. I think people didn't comment on it because, in the grander scheme of things, its a small character nuance.

Since you weren't aware of this having happened though, here's the specifics:
Watson wakes up late and therefore misses checking Holmes out of rehab (she finds out he left on his own, effectively staging a jail break), so she goes to his house, getting there in time to see some nameless woman putting her clothes on through the open window. After the woman leaves, Watson goes inside and Holmes does his awkward 'pickup line' recitation that was in all the early trailers.

Watson introduces herself and confronts him about the rehab jail break and the woman, and Holmes is nonchalant and dismissive on both fronts, talking about the two things the way you'd talk about the weather, describing things with the woman exactly as Christopher said.

Watson later calls BS on the thing with the woman, using it to get Holmes to all but admit that he's running from the event - which she deduces involved a woman - that led to Holmes' drug crash in London.

Thanks for the recap. It's true that this sort of thing is not unheard of, but it's still unusual, and becoming ever more so. This changes the context of the later confrontation scene. I suppose I should try to rewatch but CBS isn't desperate enough to stream episodes online as I recall.

 

[DigificWriter]

CBS isn't desperate enough to stream episodes online as I recall.

Not sure where you got that idea from, because the network definitely does stream its stuff online. I've watched Survivor episodes on their site before, and they have the Elementary pilot available right now as well if you do want to rewatch it.

 

[Captaindemotion]

For any two characters in a fictional franchise (or across different franchises), you'll find someone who imagines them as lovers, no matter how insanely wrong a pairing it is.

I vote for Norm Peterson and Cliff Clavin in Cheers.

Can anyone top that for an insanely wrong pairing?

 

[Christopher]

I vote for Norm Peterson and Cliff Clavin in Cheers.

Can anyone top that for an insanely wrong pairing?

Oh, come on, that's downright tame by shipping standards. Whoever mentioned "Wincest" already surpassed that by a huge margin. (That's a reference to the Supernatural fans who imagine the two male leads as lovers even though they're brothers.)

 

[Captaindemotion]

^But have you seen Norm and Cliff?!

 

[Christopher]

^How is that worse than shipping brothers? Seriously, I'm not saying I'd like to imagine those two together, I'm just saying that shippers online have done many, many things that make that seem downright healthy by comparison. Look here, if you dare:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrackPairing

 

[Dream]

Let's not forget the original slash couple Kirk/Spock started by the crazy fans!

 

[Harvey]

Sam and Dean is nothing. What gets me are the slash stories that pair up the brothers with their father. Ugh.

 

[stj]

CBS isn't desperate enough to stream episodes online as I recall.

Not sure where you got that idea from, because the network definitely does stream its stuff online. I've watched Survivor episodes on their site before, and they have the Elementary pilot available right now as well if you do want to rewatch it.

Trying and failing to find episodes I missed. I hadn't looked again since I couldn't find any last year. So, thanks again.

 

[the G-man]

Didn't you catch the part in the pilot where Holmes said that while he found sex distasteful, he needed it as part of his "process," which was why the hooker was just leaving when Watson showed up? It's certainly not a love life, but it is a sex life.

No. That must have been when I was answering the phone.

But, wait! Bland, generic, safe CBS has the hero using a prositute? You must be pulling my leg. Giving Holmes a sex life is just too radical a break with tradition for the senior citizens who are the only ones who watch CBS.

And not just any prostitute, but a tattooed hussy whom (it's implied) specializes in bondage . . . .

That's not exactly groundbreaking after CSI's Grissom and Lady Heather.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Didn't you catch the part in the pilot where Holmes said that while he found sex distasteful, he needed it as part of his "process," which was why the hooker was just leaving when Watson showed up? It's certainly not a love life, but it is a sex life.

No. That must have been when I was answering the phone.

But, wait! Bland, generic, safe CBS has the hero using a prositute? You must be pulling my leg. Giving Holmes a sex life is just too radical a break with tradition for the senior citizens who are the only ones who watch CBS.

Ah, I get it! You're pulling my leg!Surely if such a thing had happened people would have discussed this instead of babbling about bland and safe! It would have been a big deal.

Even CBS comedies have references to (if not out right portrayals of) sex, including characters who pay for it.

 

[Captaindemotion]

^How is that worse than shipping brothers? Seriously, I'm not saying I'd like to imagine those two together, I'm just saying that shippers online have done many, many things that make that seem downright healthy by comparison. Look here, if you dare:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrackPairing

I'm just f*cking with ya. This conversation reminds me of something I read about the director Rob Reiner. I think it was Billy Crystal who said that Reiner is a sick SOB. You'd be walking down the street with him and he'd say something like 'See that fat guy over there? You have a choice. You have to f*ck him or else you can f*ck your own mother...'

 

[Trekker4747]

Still not a bad show, but between his stubble and the way he dresses, I think this take on Holmes is more to try and be like "House" than the famous detective. (Who, yes, House was loosely based but the Holmes of the books was a bit more better kept and concerned about his appearance than either House or this take on Holmes seem to be.)

 

[Saul]

It does kinda feel like another House. Could be House and Cuddy gone off to investigate. The clothes of Holmes, the music, the prostitutes, the banter between him and Watson reminds me of House.

 

[Takeru]

It does kinda feel like another House. Could be House and Cuddy gone off to investigate. The clothes of Holmes, the music, the prostitutes, the banter between him and Watson reminds me of House.

That's because House was another Sherlock, the show was often described as "Sherlock Holmes as a doctor".

Holmes = House
Watson = Wilson