Spoilers Lower Decks General Discussion Thread

[valkyrie013]

Troi: Dad died, sister dead, First son (alien) Suicides, 2nd son dies.. The 2nd son dieing was just a kick in the junk.. really.. Surprised doesn't put Kestra in a holodeck for life.

Kirk: giant massacre as a kid, half die on his first ship, blames himself, lovers galore, some die, son dies, Friend dies, but comes back.
Raffi: family ditches her
Michael: Parents dead, mentor dead, estranged step brother.
Tilly: so far so good...

 

[Hythlodeus]

people die all the time. no one lives forever. and everyone is defined by death. the death of loved ones and ones own mortality.
this is a non-issue

 

[DaveyNY]

Ummmnn...
Star Trek has almost always been about being out in space, exploring the "Unknown" ...

Seems to me that there's an extremely high risk of things 'going south' quite often, when one is purposefully looking for it.

 

[Tuskin38]

Saw this pointed out, but Shaxs's rank is inconsistent, some scenes he has 3 pips, some scenes he only has 2. Sometimes it changes between shots in the same scene.

As far as I can tell, he's the only character to have that issue with keeping the pips straight. I wonder what was going on at the animation department lol.

Or maybe it's an intentional gag.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Speaking of rank, it’s interesting that, last week, Mariner was given a two-grade promotion from Ensign to full Lieutenant (two gold pips), skipping Lieutenant Junior Grade (one gold, one black). Perhaps that was where she was at her highest point before being busted back down and sent to Cerritos.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Saw this pointed out, but Shaxs's rank is inconsistent, some scenes he has 3 pips, some scenes he only has 2. Sometimes it changes between shots in the same scene.

As far as I can tell, he's the only character to have that issue with keeping the pips straight. I wonder what was going on at the animation department lol.

Or maybe it's an intentional gag.

He’s a deep cover Changeling spy

 

[Tim Thomason]

people die all the time. no one lives forever. and everyone is defined by death. the death of loved ones and ones own mortality.
this is a non-issue

Death is the "undiscovered country" that Shakespeare was writing about. That was a pretty morbid title for the last TOS film, even if they reinterpreted it to mean the future state of peace with the Klingons.

 

[dupersuper]

The novel I'm reading is incredibly enjoyable in that it highlights that Kirk was experiencing serious trauma and had impacted a lot of his life and relationships.

What novel's that?

 

[DaveyNY]

Saw this pointed out, but Shaxs's rank is inconsistent, some scenes he has 3 pips, some scenes he only has 2. Sometimes it changes between shots in the same scene.

As far as I can tell, he's the only character to have that issue with keeping the pips straight. I wonder what was going on at the animation department lol.

Or maybe it's an intentional gag.

Maybe Captain Freeman demotes him everytime he suggests detonating the Warp core.
And then decides to give it back a day later.

 

[Kpnuts]

That is the nature of storytelling.

I mean, that even started with TWOK and Generations for each crew not getting a happily ever after for a bit. Picard lost two members of his family to a fire. Kirk discovers he has a son only for his son to be killed. Star Trek, for all its other positives, has tended to fall in to that storytelling trap that we can't even have a 100% positive ending.

More on point, I do agree that the Riker's dead child just overmuch. I guess I disagree that Discovery/Picard is the only place where no one gets a happy life. Pretty much saw that from TOS on.

As you say constantly, mileage will vary.

Of course people have sad things happen to them in TOS, TNG etc but they also had plenty of good things. I suspect the point that was being made about Discovery and Picard is that the balance is shifted so far towards the negative, where there's a lot of suffering, but very little joy.

That's why I'm enjoying Lower Decks, for the most part, it's optimistic, joyful and optimistic, the heart of Star Trek.

 

[fireproof78]

I guess I'm more Stoic at times. I see joy in those shows.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I guess I'm more Stoic at times. I see joy in those shows.

Loving the new avatar

 

[fireproof78]

Loving the new avatar

Thank you. Here's where I posted the original fan art I found:
Possibilities Lower Decks Live Action version?

 

[Michael]

Thank you. Here's where I posted the original fan art I found:
Possibilities Lower Decks Live Action version?

I too think it's pretty awesome. Attempted something similar with Mariner/Tawny Newsome a couple of days ago, but it didn't turn out as cool as that. Would be lovely if at some point the voice cast actually did a photoshoot in their uniforms.

 

[Super Grover]

Oh, Brittas' in this?

 

[Tim Thomason]

I too think it's pretty awesome. Attempted something similar with Mariner/Tawny Newsome a couple of days ago, but it didn't turn out as cool as that. Would be lovely if at some point the voice cast actually did a photoshoot in their uniforms.

I tried to work out a photoshop of Sliders-era O'Connell in a DS9 uniform, with ideas for similar shops with Dawnn Lewis in maybe early TNG and maybe, just maybe Tatasciore in a Bajoran Militia outfit.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Oh, Brittas' in this?

she's the worst

 

[RAMA]

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[Danja]

Troi: Dad died, sister dead, First son (alien) Suicides, 2nd son dies.. The 2nd son dieing was just a kick in the junk.. really.. Surprised doesn't put Kestra in a holodeck for life.

Kirk: giant massacre as a kid, half die on his first ship, blames himself, lovers galore, some die, son dies, Friend dies, but comes back.
Raffi: family ditches her
Michael: Parents dead, mentor dead, estranged step brother.
Tilly: so far so good...

Seven of Nine: Two sons dead, parents with the Borg.

 

[Turtletrekker]

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Nice!