I haven't seen it, but apparently the Titan's first officer in LDS is a Saurian and not Christine Vale. LDS is set 2380 same as the first few Titan novels, so although they kept the ship design they're not adapting novelverse characters.
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There was a Saurian in the chair next to Riker, so that very well might be the case, but I wouldn't take that definitively as who the XO is or as a strict limitation of who they'll include next season. I don't see why it being 2380 would in any way limit what characters they include next season
for however long Boimler serves aboard the Titan.
Maybe she's just stepped up from changing her haircut and color every week.
It would not surprise me at all if Mike McMahan was the sort of fan who has read all the novels.
Anyway I came here to say exactly this! Many years ago, when the TTN novels first came out, there was a thread here in this forum where people posted art of how a Titan animated show would look, and this episode of Lower Decks had me CHEERING to see it onscreen in animated form. I would 100% be behind a Titan animated spinoff from this episode- super excited to see Titan again in S2 of LD!
The Saurian could be another gamma-shift watch commander, like Tamen Gibruch in later novels. Or they serve only briefly - Fletcher was aboard for 6 days.
More of an issue is the prevalence of Humans aboard the Titan on LDS. Perhaps one of them is the young man who had a crush on Ranul Keru, and the others are temporary/non-Humans?
Would be cool if we saw Tuvok there.
If we tried to reconcile the TTN series with the LDS appearance(s), then I’d reckon the on-screen events take place after The Red King and before Orion’s Hounds?
More of an issue is the prevalence of Humans aboard the Titan on LDS. Perhaps one of them is the young man who had a crush on Ranul Keru, and the others are temporary/non-Humans?
Would be cool if we saw Tuvok there.
If we tried to reconcile the TTN series with the LDS appearance(s), then I’d reckon the on-screen events take place after The Red King and before Orion’s Hounds?
Maybe more Titan appearances in LDS will show us more Litverse crew?
The Titan being a Luna might just have been someone at CBS (probably John Van Citters) just pointing out they own the Luna class, might as well use it.
I doubt it.
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Seeing the ship in action was sweet.
It looked like it was firing photon and quantum torpedoes at the same time. Like the bridge design which is similar to the sovereign bridge. I can't wait to see more of the ship. I might have to finally sit down and read a Titan novel and I bet a lot of others are thinking the same.
It looked like it was firing photon and quantum torpedoes at the same time. Like the bridge design which is similar to the sovereign bridge. I can't wait to see more of the ship. I might have to finally sit down and read a Titan novel and I bet a lot of others are thinking the same.
I wouldn't hold my breath. The most I'd expect is maybe also featuring Tuvok serving on the Titan, and only that so they can score another crossover.
Since other tie-ins that have featured the Titan have used the Luna class design like STO and IDW comics and IIRC there's even an Eagle Moss model of it, they likely figured this is what the Titan already looks like to fandom, might as well use that design on the show. Not so much a nod to the novels as it was "got to use something, might as well use what everyone else has used."
To me it looked like the Cerritos bridge, but redone to match the design aesthetic of the Sovereign.
I would be fine seeing Tuvok as
Tactical officer, Second or First Officer.
Tactical officer, Second or First Officer.
Apologies if this as already been discussed, but I thought it was interesting that Sonya Gomez was Captain of the 'Archimedes', since she'd already been Captain of another ship that was named after a famous European polymath?
I feel like it was at the least a nod and acknowledgement of the novels to take THIS PARTICULAR character the novels had built up and promoted and give her this role. Like, there are several characters who could have had the role, or even given it to an original character, and instead, they went the extra mile to not just use Sonya Gomez, but even got her original actress (who seems to mostly focus on her career in journalism these days) to voice her.
I mean, maybe it was just that Sonya was an attempt at building a crew of “lower decks” in to TNG that ended up fizzling out, to show that the ensign who spilled her hot chocolate on Captain Jean-Luc Picard made her way to command, and there’s hope for our band of lower decks crew, but with authors like Kirsten Beyer and David Mack actually working with modern Trek production, even if not Lower Decks specifically, I can see it being at least an Easter egg for novel fans that worked with their overall planned storyline for this episode.
I mean, maybe it was just that Sonya was an attempt at building a crew of “lower decks” in to TNG that ended up fizzling out, to show that the ensign who spilled her hot chocolate on Captain Jean-Luc Picard made her way to command, and there’s hope for our band of lower decks crew, but with authors like Kirsten Beyer and David Mack actually working with modern Trek production, even if not Lower Decks specifically, I can see it being at least an Easter egg for novel fans that worked with their overall planned storyline for this episode.
I find it a bit disappointing that Gomez was not shown as CO of the da Vinci when the Saber class is already longstanding canon and she also had succeeded Captain Gold at this point in the novel continuity.
I think it's a stretch to believe there was any acknowledgment of the books intended. A ton of Starfleet vessels are named after European scientists and scholars, so that vague similarity isn't remotely enough to go on. And as DGCat said, Gomez was probably chosen because she was the original "lower decks"-type character in the TNG era.
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