Lost 6x03: "What Kate Does"

[zengoth]

average-
i'm trusting that the overall 6season arc will be satisfying, but at this moment, I am very tired of yet another episode where the castaways have guns pointed at them/threatened with immediate extermination/having information kept from them.

(You would think Sawyer, having lived with Juliet for 3 years, would have been given answers on what the Others were all about - at least everything that Juliet knew.)

 

[Scout101]

Below Average.

Nothing really happened, filler episode.

Honestly, how do you name an episode "What kate does" and then not have Kate DO anything of any real significance? Thought they might go more into Kate/Aaron and why Kate went back to the island, since it was a Kate/Claire story, but other than a throwaway about it to Sawyer, they didn't go into it.

Just a crappy episode, which sucks since there are only 16 in the final season. feels like we wasted one...

 

[Morpheus 02]

Below Average.

Nothing really happened, filler episode.

Honestly, how do you name an episode "What kate does" and then not have Kate DO anything of any real significance?

Maybe that is what Kate does, at least to Kate-centirc episodes of Lost?

i agree that this is a piece of a bigger puzzle. While it seems mundane now, we'll all look at it more intensely when the DVD comes out...

 

[Corran Horn]

I voted average but should have voted 'below average'.

It's getting a little old to see the 50th iteration of 'guy who knows all the answers' telling our heroes "I'll tell you everything you want to know" and then not telling anybody anything.

 

[Agent Richard07]

I'd like to think that there is some explanation for why Kate seemed to drive the stolen cab around forever and was never noticed

Or why Claire was perfectly content to go for a ride in the stolen cab with the lady who held up her at gunpoint.

That's another big issue I forgot to mention.

 

[Yeoman Randi]

I voted average. This was pretty boring and i agree that the island stuff is less interesting than the off island stuff is. I'm bored to tears with the Japanese guy and the constant "i'm not telling" shit.

I am very impressed with Josh Holloway's performances this year so far. I really didn't know the guy had such great acting chops!

 

[auntiehill]

I gave it average, because I REALLY wanted to stay focused on Jack, Sayid and the temple, but noooooooooo....we kept going back to alternate-Kate. It was rather frustrating.

I mean, Sawyer looked right at HER, and said, "Don't follow me," so, naturally, she follows him. *face-palm* She doesn't say, "We need to find Claire" until she needed an excuse why she was after Sawyer.

 

[label]

I thought it was pretty boring in places and Kate episodes are generally pretty lame, but I do think some major things went down last night so I don't agree with the "nothing happened" comments.

1. Sayid is revealed to have been claimed like Claire was (after she died in the explosion) and like Rousseau's team was which ties things up very nicely.

2. Claire showing back up like she did was pretty big news.

3. The reveal that Claire was claimed and Jack now knows about it sets up an interesting storyline.

4. The reveal that Claire was claimed also has strong implications about Christian being claimed as well. It seems that Jacob can claim people by touching them while they were alive and the MIB can claim them once they're dead.

Basically, the fact that it was revealed that Claire is claimed as is Sayid really ties many story lines together that have been in play since Christian first showed up in Season 1.

5. The fact that Claire and Kate share a connection despite how Kate first takes Claire hostage at gunpoint is pretty clear evidence that they all still share a connection and this reality isn't going to ultimately work as a final solution.

Granted it's a Kate episode so it's bound to be sub-par and my interest did wane here and there through-out the show, but I do think we got some significant hints about the overall big picture and a couple of answers to boot.

 

[LitmusDragon]

We still have no idea what this "claiming" is and why it's called an infection or a sickness, and this has been a major question since season one. I'm glad we're finally going to get answers on that front!

I think it's only smokey who has the power over the dead- we've never seen any instance of Jacob interacting with the dead, to my knowledge. If smokey is Anubis or the creature that spawned the myth of Anubis (as is my personal pet theory), then presumably he wants to get back to Egypt. These people who have been claimed are probably claimed by the spirits of people who lived long ago on the island, perhaps smokey's followers from his original run as an Egyptian diety? Just grasping at straws here.

I get the impression Jacob was just a man who was chosen by the island for a special purpose, and that now that he is dead, the island will choose someone else.

 

[Starbreaker]

I gave it average, because I REALLY wanted to stay focused on Jack, Sayid and the temple, but noooooooooo....we kept going back to alternate-Kate. It was rather frustrating

It's not like there was anything going on at temple anyway. An entire episode devoted to what was in a pill!

I mean, Sawyer looked right at HER, and said, "Don't follow me," so, naturally, she follows him. *face-palm* She doesn't say, "We need to find Claire" until she needed an excuse why she was after Sawyer.

That did set up the funniest Sawyer line of the season though. "I'm sorry for following you" "Which time?"

 

[Aragorn]

I enjoyed seeing creeptastic Ethan again. I was thinking, 'No Clare! He wants your bay-bee!' But then I thought that since the island sank he wouldn't be an Other. Has he been in every season now? Not a bad record for a dead guy.

The best record for a dead guy has to be Christian, who was dead prior to the first episode yet has had more character development than several Lost "regulars" put together.

 

[Agent Richard07]

I am very impressed with Josh Holloway's performances this year so far. I really didn't know the guy had such great acting chops!

I think his "tough guy" act along with his intense look are a bit over the top. I'm not complaining, it's just an observation.

 

[Ryan8bit]

Why did Dogen go through all the hassle of the pill business when he could have just had people shoot Sayid? I mean, he was going to have them all shot originally, so why not just do it? Is it just because he wanted to shift the blame of Sayid's death to Jack? That seems a little overcomplicated. Why not just kill Sayid while he was being tested?

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

Why did Dogen go through all the hassle of the pill business when he could have just had people shoot Sayid? I mean, he was going to have them all shot originally, so why not just do it? Is it just because he wanted to shift the blame of Sayid's death to Jack? That seems a little overcomplicated. Why not just kill Sayid while he was being tested?

They did say he had to take the pill willingly... but I think they really have to explain why. It might be related to the loophole, how Ben had to willingly choose to stab Jacob. Maybe they can't kill him against his will?

 

[Jaron]

Why did Dogen go through all the hassle of the pill business when he could have just had people shoot Sayid? I mean, he was going to have them all shot originally, so why not just do it? Is it just because he wanted to shift the blame of Sayid's death to Jack? That seems a little overcomplicated. Why not just kill Sayid while he was being tested?

They did say he had to take the pill willingly... but I think they really have to explain why. It might be related to the loophole, how Ben had to willingly choose to stab Jacob. Maybe they can't kill him against his will?

Or they didn't want to scare off the Losties. If Sayid takes the pill and dies, Dogen can say "I guess the infection was just too strong" and there's at least a chance Jack will believe him. If he just shoots Sayid, there's no chance Jack and company will do anything without being threatened themselves.

 

[Hyperspace05]

Below Average.... Yikes that was annoying.

- Has there ever been a more stupid cinematic device that these flash-sideways scenes? I doubt it.

- I felt like smacking the Japanese guy in the face every time he refused to speak English.

- Kate really has to be one of the most vile female creatures on the island... I want Jack, no I want Sawyer, I want no Jack, no I want Sawyer. Just die already. Painfully. If Sawyer takes her back they destroy his character as well, so I sincerely hope they do not.

 

[Gertch]

Why did Dogen go through all the hassle of the pill business when he could have just had people shoot Sayid? I mean, he was going to have them all shot originally, so why not just do it? Is it just because he wanted to shift the blame of Sayid's death to Jack? That seems a little overcomplicated. Why not just kill Sayid while he was being tested?

They did say he had to take the pill willingly... but I think they really have to explain why. It might be related to the loophole, how Ben had to willingly choose to stab Jacob. Maybe they can't kill him against his will?

Or they didn't want to scare off the Losties. If Sayid takes the pill and dies, Dogen can say "I guess the infection was just too strong" and there's at least a chance Jack will believe him. If he just shoots Sayid, there's no chance Jack and company will do anything without being threatened themselves.

Perhaps in counteracting the poison the infection is used up and the person unhurt. But in someone who is not infected the poison will kill them. That was my thought at the time.

I say we give it to Kate and see.



EDIT: Just found this page (http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/02/things-i-noticed-what-kate-does-by.html) and this person pretty much sides with you all.

 

[TheGodBen]

i agree that this is a piece of a bigger puzzle. While it seems mundane now, we'll all look at it more intensely when the DVD comes out...

I don't know, Kate-centric episodes have rarely been all that important to the overall story.

Tabula Rasa: The Marshal dies, only important to Kate.
Whatever the Case May Be: They spend a whole episode trying to get a case of guns back from Sawyer because the stupid bitch gave it to him in the first place!
Born to Run: The truth about Kate is revealed to the Losties, nobody cares.
What Kate Did: Oh look, a horsie! What riveting television!
I Do: The stupid bitch screws Saywer for no good reason, the only important part of this episode was based on Jack doing the surgery.
Left Behind: A completely pointless episode.
Eggtown: Kate might be pregnant? Nope.
The Little Prince: Kate angst about Aaron.
Whatever Happened, Happened: Kate angst about Aaron.

Most Kate episodes only matter to Kate, and the one or two things in her episodes which add to the overall story could easily be placed in another character's episode. The only time she ever came close to mattering was in I Do because her stupidity drove Jack to a place where he was willing to save Ben's life. (ETA: And I guess she saved Ben's life back in 1977. I'm not sure, my memory of season 5 is fuzzy.)

I'm not a huge Jack fan, I often find him rather dull, but I will always be thankful to his character purely for existing, because I could not imagine watching this show if she was the lead as originally planned.

Just die already. Painfully.

Now that's a message I can get behind.


As for the episode, I voted Average for reasons already stated by others. A typical Kate episodes buoyed up by a few good scenes.

 

[Trippy]

(http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/02/things-i-noticed-what-kate-does-by.html)

Best part:

"Confused? Don't be. Sawyer had to deal with Cooper because he was the one who brought him to the island, just as Jack had to deal with Christian and Hurley had to deal with Dave. In that respect, the island is much like that evil cave on Dagobah. What's in there? Only what you bring with you."

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Excellent from me. I guess I'm getting over my Kate-hate now that she's getting the comeuppance she deserves. I also love that they're returning to the infection storyline!