Spoilers Lord of the Rings TV series
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Hmm....I don't care one bit about what is norm these days or what the norm was, these things change as the wind.
They could use green people for all I care, to me they are a person that acts...(there is only one race of humans and all of that).
What these pictures have in smooth prettiness and such, they lack in gravitas....
They say: we have way too much money to burn, we will buy our selves success and glory.
But we will just have to wait and see what they will do.
Weiter, weiter ins Verderben
Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben....
They could use green people for all I care, to me they are a person that acts...(there is only one race of humans and all of that).
What these pictures have in smooth prettiness and such, they lack in gravitas....
They say: we have way too much money to burn, we will buy our selves success and glory.
But we will just have to wait and see what they will do.
Weiter, weiter ins Verderben
Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben....
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A quite indepth article, very interesting.
However i still can't shake the feeling it may fizzle out.
As the article itself says studios are hunting for the next Game of Thrones but that was lightning in the bottle - a perfect storm of fantastic books as the source, fantastic actors and great production value ( that got even better once HBO realized they have a massive hit in their hands).
This show is lacking the very first element - while it works off the annotations by Tolkien it was not written out indepth as the LotR books were, so you have people writing it now which can be hit or miss ( remember GoT after the books ran out as source material?)
I don't know anybody from the cast but granted i also didn't know who Peter Dinklage was prior to GoT, so there might be some surprises and future A listers somewhere in that cast.
Production value - well, when you're pouring Amazon money into the project and have the complete backing of Bezos it will look great but Disney Star Wars Sequel trilogy also looked great so..
I'm not trying to take a dump on the show, i love Tolkien's universe and the LotR movies are sacred to me ( as are the books) so i hope they pull it off and have me glued to the screen whenever a new episode airs. It is just too many uncertainties to be sure and the only way to know is to watch it when it comes out.
All reasonable concerns and I do worry about the lack of detailed source material (you're right about Game of Thrones). I'm hoping that since the two guys who are running the show are such devoted Tolkien fans and recognize the pressure of the situation that they'll be able to stir the show in the right direction.A quite indepth article, very interesting.
However i still can't shake the feeling it may fizzle out.
As the article itself says studios are hunting for the next Game of Thrones but that was lightning in the bottle - a perfect storm of fantastic books as the source, fantastic actors and great production value ( that got even better once HBO realized they have a massive hit in their hands).
This show is lacking the very first element - while it works off the annotations by Tolkien it was not written out indepth as the LotR books were, so you have people writing it now which can be hit or miss ( remember GoT after the books ran out as source material?)
I don't know anybody from the cast but granted i also didn't know who Peter Dinklage was prior to GoT, so there might be some surprises and future A listers somewhere in that cast.
Production value - well, when you're pouring Amazon money into the project and have the complete backing of Bezos it will look great but Disney Star Wars Sequel trilogy also looked great so..
I'm not trying to take a dump on the show, i love Tolkien's universe and the LotR movies are sacred to me ( as are the books) so i hope they pull it off and have me glued to the screen whenever a new episode airs. It is just too many uncertainties to be sure and the only way to know is to watch it when it comes out.
As for the cast, I'm familiar with about 40% of them, probably because I watch too many television shows. I'm particularly excited about Nazanin Boniadi's inclusion in the show.
Indeed. In some parts of theonering the films are basically persona no grata because of how they interpret the books.
There is a strictness to the interpretation of the books that is applied really firmly, with no room for exceptions.
It’s nice to see a reasonable discussion here. Just about everywhere else it seems all I see is “it’s woke, woke, go woke go broke” or “it looks like shitty cosplay. It all looks like cheap garbage”. It’s just getting harder and harder to find decent places to discuss anything in a reasonable and respectful way. It doesn’t matter the subject. It’s especially hard in the area of SF/fantasy.
It is extremely hard and there are times I genuinely want to throw my hands up and give up. My wife and I have really fun discussions as she is a massive LOTR fan and has read the books multiple times, and stayed up on the news. But she also has to provide feedback to members on theonering to be more civil. It's ridiculous.
For me, the Second Age is one that I am least familiar with, and least likely to feel much attachment too. I have appreciate the designs of the swords and livery thus far, but I will be really curious how they bring all these different characters together.
Crazy how TrekBBS has become the reasonable corner of the Internet. Waaay back in the day, that kind of shit definitely happened here.
Hell, when I left another Trek forum and came to BBS the conversation was infinitely more polite. Same with leaving a Star Wars forum.
Y'all got old
We sure did.Hell, when I left another Trek forum and came to BBS the conversation was infinitely more polite. Same with leaving a Star Wars forum.
Y'all got old
Now get off my virtual lawn, you damn millennial!
Well. I'm really excited for this now. From the photos so far it seems they are going for their own look rather than aping the movies (which is very much my preference, since I've never been a fan of the movies)
Really love the picture with Galadriel and Elrond in that forest, that looks very elfish.It also helps that the actor for Elrond is very cute, as is the actor for Arondir (the new wood elf)
Also really love the costume and hair design on the Dwarf princess. Though with Arondir, while I like his clothing, especially that Green Man motive on the shirt/breast plate (which I guess could depict Orome within Middle Earth Canon) I kinda would have preferred if they gave him long hair (maybe in braids or something). Yet on the other hand I'm also glad they break from the Elf aesthetic in the movies that gave every single one of them the same, straight, long, boring hair.
What I'm wondering right now if the Rings will actually be created during the first episodes of the show, or if that will be already in the past and the show will begin with the War of the Elves against Sauron. In either case we would have to see Gil-Galad in some capacity, so I'm surprised he's not announced yet.
If we are lucky this could lead to another show (or movies) depicting the events of the First Age. Honestly I'd die for an adaption of Beren and Luthien.
The Second Age in general is the one Tolkien wrote the least about, since it was a later creation of his that only came about during the writing of the Lord of the Rings. So we only have very general, very brief canon accounts of it.
The most detailed material for the Second Age has to do with the island kingdom of Numenor, which is far away from Middle Earth and the events of this series, though I could see them focusing on Numenor for the second season (assuming the show lives that long)
Really love the picture with Galadriel and Elrond in that forest, that looks very elfish.
Also really love the costume and hair design on the Dwarf princess. Though with Arondir, while I like his clothing, especially that Green Man motive on the shirt/breast plate (which I guess could depict Orome within Middle Earth Canon) I kinda would have preferred if they gave him long hair (maybe in braids or something). Yet on the other hand I'm also glad they break from the Elf aesthetic in the movies that gave every single one of them the same, straight, long, boring hair.
What I'm wondering right now if the Rings will actually be created during the first episodes of the show, or if that will be already in the past and the show will begin with the War of the Elves against Sauron. In either case we would have to see Gil-Galad in some capacity, so I'm surprised he's not announced yet.
If we are lucky this could lead to another show (or movies) depicting the events of the First Age. Honestly I'd die for an adaption of Beren and Luthien.
The Second Age in general is the one Tolkien wrote the least about, since it was a later creation of his that only came about during the writing of the Lord of the Rings. So we only have very general, very brief canon accounts of it.
The most detailed material for the Second Age has to do with the island kingdom of Numenor, which is far away from Middle Earth and the events of this series, though I could see them focusing on Numenor for the second season (assuming the show lives that long)
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I don't think that's quite right. In fact, one of my clients guessed my age at 50 just yesterdayWe sure did.
Now get off my virtual lawn, you damn millennial!
What I gleamed from the article is that they're doing a slow build up to the creation of the rings as suggested by the idea that Sauron is still in hiding and acting as an unknown source. Plus Celebrimbor has been cast.
Actually we already know that Númenor is going to play a big part in this series and it's been speculated that we'll eventually get to see its downfall.
Yeah, I figured I was off the mark on that. But I decided to lean into that as part of the joke.I don't think that's quite right. In fact, one of my clients guessed my age at 50 just yesterday
Sorry I just came to this thread after seeing the pictures online, so I'm not sure which article you mean. Still; neat to hear that Celebrimbor has been cast!
Yeah the whole thing with Numenor's downfall is what I meant with them perhaps focusing on Numenor in the Second Season.
The photos came from this big Vanity Fair story. Lots of new information!
I actually prefer my elves, both males and females, to have long hair. The skin colour is a non issue for me because we have the drows in elven mythology. But seeing Elves like a young Elrond and Arondir with short hair is kind of weird for me.
I am still looking forward to watching the show when it comes out.
I am still looking forward to watching the show when it comes out.
oooh, this show sounds better and better!
I think it's good to give the Elves some variety as far as hairstyles go. And I think Elrond's hair looks pretty good.
I agree on Arondir though, particularly since he's a wood elf, I kinda would have preferred seeing him with long braids.
Speaking of Elrond's hair though...I wonder how many hardcore fans will complain about him having dark blond/right brown (that what it looks like to me in the photos) hair when he's supposed to have black hair (being the father of Arwen and all, who's dark hair is one of the reasons she's compared to Luthien and all)
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