Lorca is a coward and murderer, how come he's a Starfleet Captain still??
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Starfleet doesn't know what happened to BURNHAM by the sound of things.
We know very little about what happened or how he lived. We did see however what is driving the man.
You should stop then. It will make you feel better.
He prevented his crew from being tortured, raped and eaten while killing many of the enemy.
He used every method at his disposal to get get a technological science and tactical leap operational.
He scored many important victories over the enemy.
I am not seeing much of a problem here.
He used every method at his disposal to get get a technological science and tactical leap operational.
He scored many important victories over the enemy.
I am not seeing much of a problem here.
I'll give it couple of episodes more. But yeah, I'm pretty fed up with the grimdark Trek. The producers said that it would get less grim in the future, but I'm not sure I trust them any more.
I think you're just punishing yourself if you think it's going to change. It's not likely to. If you don't like it thus far, it's probably just not your thing. You may want to stop while you're ahead.
Because Starfleet always likes to give new ships to screwups. I mean look at Picard:
Go rewatch TNG's - "The Battle" and realize:
- Picard LOST his ship (and probably suffered many crew deaths) because even after his ship was nearly destroyed, he was STILL on the Comms begging tghem not to fire again.
- The 'Picard maneuver' wasn't a display of 'tactical brilliance' it was a: "What the hell; the ship's about to blow anyway - so either we survives or he goes BOOM with me!" pure desperation maneuver - that were Picard competent, should never have been tried (because he would not be in a situation where his ship is blowing up.)
- Picard must be terrible at damage evaluation because not only did the Hull survive; there was enough of the ship systems left that Bokk could fully repair the ship back to Starfleet standards - and get full access to it's databanks.
^^^
So, what did Picard get after that debacle? Full Command of the newest ship (at that time) in the Fleet (and in the 24th Century the Federation Flagship) - the 1701-D.
We only think the Enterprise-D was the "Federation flagship" because Starfleet allowed Picard and his deluded crew to think that was actually a thing. No one wanted to break Picard's heart by having him look up the actual definition of 'flagship'.
Enterprise-D was assigned with transporting freshly replicated flags to the fleet admiral.
So that's what was in all those containers.
Must go through a lot of flags.
Space Oprah gives them away at every show.
'Look under you Captains chairs everyone, you're all getting FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGSSSSS'
*cue insane rabid, foaming at the mouth cheering from bored, middle-aged female starfleet officers*
Because Starfleet always likes to give new ships to screwups. I mean look at Picard:
Go rewatch TNG's - "The Battle" and realize:
- Picard LOST his ship (and probably suffered many crew deaths) because even after his ship was nearly destroyed, he was STILL on the Comms begging tghem not to fire again.
- The 'Picard maneuver' wasn't a display of 'tactical brilliance' it was a: "What the hell; the ship's about to blow anyway - so either we survives or he goes BOOM with me!" pure desperation maneuver - that were Picard competent, should never have been tried (because he would not be in a situation where his ship is blowing up.)
- Picard must be terrible at damage evaluation because not only did the Hull survive; there was enough of the ship systems left that Bokk could fully repair the ship back to Starfleet standards - and get full access to it's databanks.
^^^
So, what did Picard get after that debacle? Full Command of the newest ship (at that time) in the Fleet (and in the 24th Century the Federation Flagship) - the 1701-D.
Not to mention, Picard surrenders the Enterprise 20 minutes into the pilot episode. Great intro to our new hero.
I find it amusing how people talk about the "unlikability" of characters like Lorca and Burnham. The TNG crew took about 2 full seasons of 20+ episodes each before anyone became even remotely likable.
Picard was an uptight, stern, unlikable, preachy, self righteous horses ass for the better part of 2 years.
I'm looking forward to Lorca lecturing Saru on the proper way to fold a fortune cookie a la Picard rhapsodizing about the French flag being the only sensible order to present the colors blue, white, and red. And then telling him to shut up when he tried to participate in the conversation.
It's been five episodes.
