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Looks like we're never getting a DS9 HD remaster. (Quote from twitter)

Unfortunate but I expected as much, well at least we got TNG in its entirety. It stinks because on a 4k tv ds9 and Voyager look terrible, and I imagine people won't pull out an old crt just to watch them lol.
 
Dammit it to Hell. I read the headline wrong and thought it said we were getting DS9 in HD. Anyways never give up hope. Those who are in charge today won't be in charge, forever.

Jason
 
Doesn't mean never, regardless of what Ira says.

For a long time, the powers that be had no intention of a new Picard series. Things change.

I know things on the DS9 front aren't likely to change, but that's different to never.
 
Leroy said:
Unfortunate but I expected as much, well at least we got TNG in its entirety. It stinks because on a 4k tv ds9 and Voyager look terrible, and I imagine people won't pull out an old crt just to watch them lol.
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This right here as screen tech improves these shows are going to start looking worse and wors . What's just as depressing is reading the comtents to that tweet and seeing people constantly post "it can't be in HD cause it was shot onon vid tape." Aaarrrgggghhhhhh!!!!!
 
I really don't see the 'oh it will look worse and worse' argument at all. My tv can already show the individual blades of grass on a soccer field from a distance at which my eyes couldn't do the same. There's no room for improvement left in terms of clarity. And while DS9 doesn't look super amazing on it, it is a far, far cry from unwatchable. In fact it remains a perfectly pleasant experience.
 
grendelsbayne said:
I really don't see the 'oh it will look worse and worse' argument at all. My tv can already show the individual blades of grass on a soccer field from a distance at which my eyes couldn't do the same. There's no room for improvement left in terms of clarity. And while DS9 doesn't look super amazing on it, it is a far, far cry from unwatchable. In fact it remains a perfectly pleasant experience.
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I think the argument is it will look bad compared to newer shows and also to younger fans who never grew up in a time before everything was in HD. SD is going to be like a old Black and White movie to newer fans.

Jason
 
Jayson1 said:
I think the argument is it will look bad compared to newer shows and also to younger fans who never grew up in a time before everything was in HD. SD is going to be like a old Black and White movie to newer fans.

Jason
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But it already is that. Black and White didn't 'keep looking worse and worse' even into the 2010s. At one point, Color tv was a finished technology, and the comparison became stable. The same is happening with HD vs SD.
 
^^ I think what makes it worse is the dark motif, the photography of the first few seasons of DS9. Scenes are often underlit, murky. An artistic choice to distinguish the show from TNG. It worked too well. This translates very poorly through SD. Late DS9 looks a little crisper.

Quick solution, DS9/VOY always looks better on a small tv/smaller screen... a little easier to appreciate the details (aka the love put into the show), which is the reasoning behind pining for a product above SD.
 
If it does happen it'll be down to improved software and AI based image processing to make it financially viable to upgrade.

That'll probably mean Bluray's long gone by then, which will upset me.
 
ALF said:
^^ I think what makes it worse is the dark motif, the photography of the first few seasons of DS9. Scenes are often underlit, murky. An artistic choice to distinguish the show from TNG. It worked too well. This translates very poorly through SD. Late DS9 looks a little crisper.

Quick solution, DS9/VOY always looks better on a small tv/smaller screen... a little easier to appreciate the details (aka the love put into the show), which is the reasoning behind pining for a product above SD.
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I tend to watch those shows on my phone, and save my TV for the high-quality stuff.
 
"Upconvert" functionality varies, of course. What you would get in consumer equipment pales in comparison with what can be ordered, for a price, out of the Blackmagic catalog, which in turn pales in comparison with what major studios (for whom Blackmagic's prices are pocket change) have at their disposal.

And yet, if the demand is there, consumer upconvert functionality will improve.

In the 1970s, the demand for quality in home video was nonexistent (or there would have been consumer U-Matic VCRs), but the demand for absurdly long recording time was fierce (hence the existence of :barf: 1/3-speed VHS). Nowadays, the demand for quality is there, and so we have consumer HD, and consumer 4k.

And yet the same people who complain about CD quality (and go back to vinyl, with its surface noise?!?) walk around with MP3 players, with lossy compression that makes even poor-quality CDs sound good by comparison, while step-up formats like SACD have never achieved much market penetration (and cost an arm and a leg). Go figure.
 
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Spock's NeckBeard said:
It's not a huge problem - the show is a product of it's time, and doesn't need an "update."
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I generally don't mind little tweaks to update the SFX now and then, as they do add to the story and help with my disbelief suspension that this is the future.

But there is absolutely no need to go all out and redo everything to make it gel with today's effects. We don't need to colorize all the classic movies. We don't need to add sound effects and voiceover work to silent films. We don't need to upscale all standard definition programming. DS9 (and TNG and Voyager) was made in standard definition fullscreen and should be enjoyed in that manner.

I mean, to each their own, but some things are a product of their time, and we all live in the future now, where 1990s TV is quaint and "borderline unwatchable", I guess.
 
hbquikcomjamesl said:
Nowadays, the demand for quality is there, and so we have consumer HD, and consumer 4k.
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But it really isn't. Which is why DVD is still in play.

There's simply no content providers wanting DS9/VOY in HD, currently. I guess it could change? Though I think it becomes increasingly less likely the further we move away from those shows.
 
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