Looking for old Star Trek Parody Manga / comics from 1992

[Kaiser]

Im hoping someone here has for sale or can share a digital copy of these 2 Parody Manga / Comics from 1992 from Antarctic Press.

There Covers:

http://www.startrekcomics.info/images/misc/parodies/startrekker1.jpg

http://www.startrekcomics.info/images/misc/parodies/startrekker2.jpg

 

[Therin of Andor]

Parody Manga / Comics from 1992 from Antarctic Press.

http://www.startrekcomics.info/images/misc/parodies/startrekker1.jpg

http://www.startrekcomics.info/images/misc/parodies/startrekker2.jpg

I picked up the first US-market trade omnibus (blue cover) in a local comic store when it was released, but Paramount clamped down on an advertised second compilation. I loved that many TMP aliens were featured! Note that the artwork is often flipped, so insignias often end up on the wrong side of uniforms.

After spotting additional single comics (seemingly the issues' covers you link to) on eBay, that made up the intended second collected US volume, I went scrounging and found everything I needed in clean, second hand copies from "Mile High Comics" online store.

 

[Kaiser]

Parody Manga / Comics from 1992 from Antarctic Press.

http://www.startrekcomics.info/images/misc/parodies/startrekker1.jpg

http://www.startrekcomics.info/images/misc/parodies/startrekker2.jpg

I picked up the first US-market trade omnibus (blue cover) in a local comic store when it was released, but Paramount clamped down on an advertised second compilation. I loved that many TMP aliens were featured! Note that the artwork is often flipped, so insignias often end up on the wrong side of uniforms.

After spotting additional single comics (seemingly the issues' covers you link to) on eBay, that made up the intended second collected US volume, I went scrounging and found everything I needed in clean, second hand copies from "Mile High Comics" online store.

weird seems to me on this site each comic was only the cover and 3 pages

 

[Therin of Andor]

weird seems to me on this site each comic was only the cover and 3 pages

No, they were full issues, but not trade, squarebound omnibuses like the blue one. Mark may not own copies, so he has no page counts listed.

Now everyone can see this manga i also have made a torrent for it

Torrenting a whole comic book omnibus, as you've done, is a massive breach of copyright. Too bad if Atelier Lana wanted to have another go at publishing his ST parodies.

 

[Kaiser]

Ahh ok thanks for the info then
seems no-one has a copy for sale anywheres and I mostly did that torrent thing for my friends on another forum and to hopefully give he work more exsposure online for fan-artists. I dont have any sort of scanner anymore . Is he even alive still cus i couldn't find any Biography on him anywhere and it would be good if he is cus i think Paramount should give his work another shot while manga and anime are still somewhat relevent in the USA and other area's of the world.

 

[mmtz]

weird seems to me on this site each comic was only the cover and 3 pages

No, they were full issues, but not trade, squarebound omnibuses like the blue one. Mark may not own copies, so he has no page counts listed.

Star Trekker 2 #1: The Naked Time-and-a-Half has 30 pages of story, one page of sketches, and has a cardstock cover with gold foil lettering. According to the indicia, 8000 copies were printed by Antarctic Press.

Star Trekker 2 #2: In Search of Humor has 18 pages of story, 4 pages of sketches, and what looks like b&w cover art from the two-volume Japanese collection, Star Trek: The Manga Parody. The indicia indicates that 3000 copies were printed.

I bought the first issue in a comic shop. The second issue was sold by mail-order from Antarctic Press. I don't know if it was ever distributed in comic shops. I've seen both on eBay.

I've never seen the original fan magazines with these stories, nor the Japanese collections.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I mostly did that torrent thing for my friends on another forum

That doesn't make it legal. I'd be horrified, as a past fan artist/author/editor, to see every page of my fanzines being distributed like that, especially when I still have a few boxes of unsold ones in my garage, as many fan publishers do.

and to hopefully give he work more exsposure online for fan-artists.

Surely that should be the fan artists' choice. I have Leslie Fish illustrations on my Andorian site, but I checked with Leslie if she would approve before I did so. It took me a few weeks to track her down, but she generously said I could upload everything she'd ever done about Andorians! (One day I will upload the rest.) I also have sketches by a friend from the 1980s, Kamu, who said I could upload them to new audiences, but not without her unusual surname, because she didn't want current or future employers to know she was once a prolific fan artist.

Is he even alive still cus i couldn't find any Biography on him anywhere

Who knows? Maybe Atelier Lana was a fannish pseudonym?

it would be good if he is cus i think Paramount should give his work another shot...

Paramount never gave Atalier Lana "a crack".

His/Her(?) parodies were unlicensed - and published independently. Similar to those found in "Mad" or "Cracked", but not commercial. Where "Star Trekker" ran afoul of then-Paramount/Viacom Licensing was publishing the comics in a commercial, trade paperback book, and with that infringing title, rather than sticking with a series of under-the-radar, non commercial, Japanese fanzines.

 

[Kaiser]

weird seems to me on this site each comic was only the cover and 3 pages

No, they were full issues, but not trade, squarebound omnibuses like the blue one. Mark may not own copies, so he has no page counts listed.

Star Trekker 2 #1: The Naked Time-and-a-Half has 30 pages of story, one page of sketches, and has a cardstock cover with gold foil lettering. According to the indicia, 8000 copies were printed by Antarctic Press.

Star Trekker 2 #2: In Search of Humor has 18 pages of story, 4 pages of sketches, and what looks like b&w cover art from the two-volume Japanese collection, Star Trek: The Manga Parody. The indicia indicates that 3000 copies were printed.

I bought the first issue in a comic shop. The second issue was sold by mail-order from Antarctic Press. I don't know if it was ever distributed in comic shops. I've seen both on eBay.

I've never seen the original fan magazines with these stories, nor the Japanese collections.

Ahh ok Thanks for the this info cus i didnt even know what all was in these comics i just assumed 20 pages and a credits page.

 

[Kaiser]

I mostly did that torrent thing for my friends on another forum

That doesn't make it legal. I'd be horrified, as a past fan artist/author/editor, to see every page of my fanzines being distributed like that, especially when I still have a few boxes of unsold ones in my garage, as many fan publishers do.

and to hopefully give he work more exsposure online for fan-artists.

Surely that should be the fan artists' choice. I have Leslie Fish illustrations on my Andorian site, but I checked with Leslie if she would approve before I did so. It took me a few weeks to track her down, but she generously said I could upload everything she'd ever done about Andorians! (One day I will upload the rest.) I also have sketches by a friend from the 1980s, Kamu, who said I could upload them to new audiences, but not without her unusual surname, because she didn't want current or future employers to know she was once a prolific fan artist.

Is he even alive still cus i couldn't find any Biography on him anywhere

Who knows? Maybe Atelier Lana was a fannish pseudonym?

it would be good if he is cus i think Paramount should give his work another shot...

Paramount never gave Atalier Lana "a crack".

His/Her(?) parodies were unlicensed - and published independently. Similar to those found in "Mad" or "Cracked", but not commercial. Where "Star Trekker" ran afoul of then-Paramount/Viacom Licensing was publishing the comics in a commercial, trade paperback book, and with that infringing title, rather than a series of under-the-radar, non commercial, Japanese fanzines.

Thanks for the info anyways Therin of Andor and as for fanzine stuff i mostly buy anything related to Starship Design

 

[Therin of Andor]

as for fanzine stuff i mostly buy anything related to Starship Design

But should you be torrenting other fans' material via a URL in your sig?

 

[Kaiser]

as for fanzine stuff i mostly buy anything related to Starship Design

But should you be torrenting other fans' material via a URL in your sig?

No but im not here for a legal argument and no-one even Photobucket has contacted me about it or the Mods from TrekBBS. If Atelier Lana contacts me about then i'll stop as its the only torrent i ever made and stop seeding it and remove the album from my Photobucket.

 

[Therin of Andor]

No but im not here for a legal argument

I believe we agree when signing up to TrekBBS that we won't promote illegal activities.

no-one even Photobucket has contacted me about it

So copyright can be broken until we get caught doing it?

or the Mods from TrekBBS.

* checks watch *

If Atelier Lana contacts me about then i'll stop as its the only torrent i ever made and stop seeding it and remove the album from my Photobucket.

That not how copyright works.

 

[Kaiser]

No but im not here for a legal argument

I believe we agree when signing up to TrekBBS that we won't promote illegal activities.

no-one even Photobucket has contacted me about it

So copyright can be broken until we get caught doing it?

or the Mods from TrekBBS.

* checks watch *

If Atelier Lana contacts me about then i'll stop as its the only torrent i ever made and stop seeding it and remove the album from my Photobucket.

That not how copyright works.

Who owns the Copyright to StarTrekker then? Have them contact me or what would take to make you happy as the torrent and Photobucket album was made in 2009 and its now 2011 and i cant go back into the past and stop myself from making it.

 

[Christopher]

^At the very least, you can remove the link to it in your signature.

 

[Kaiser]

Done enjoy the new link

 

[Julio Angel Ortiz]

Done enjoy the new link

Dude... you live like, a minute from me. I'm right across Rt. 100.

 

[Kaiser]

Done enjoy the new link

Dude... you live like, a minute from me. I'm right across Rt. 100.

Awesome ^__^ I used to live in Pottstown but Walmart Canned me from a set up to for to fail and Now im in Boyertown doing work for my Apt Owner.

 

[Kaiser]

Anyone ? Please?

 

[Kaiser]

Well updates I do have all 3 in paper form and the GN and Issue 1 in digital form i sent a copy of Issue 2 to be digitized but the person never got back to me

 

[Cryogenator]

Paramount clamped down on an advertised second compilation.

Unauthorized parodies are legal under American law, so assuming this publication met the legal criteria for parody protection, this was a criminal act by Paramount.

Too bad if Atelier Lana wanted to have another go at publishing his ST parodies.

After two—now three—decades?

That doesn't make it legal. I'd be horrified, as a past fan artist/author/editor, to see every page of my fanzines being distributed like that

What kind of fanzines do you mean? If they're fictional, nonparodical works based on licensed properties, how can they be copyrighted?

Without largescale fanzine archival efforts—which cannot track down every author of every work going back decades (many of whom are unreachable, unknown, or dead)—a large amount of fan culture would fade away and eventually be permanently lost and forgotten. I thought you of all people would understand and appreciate this!