Logical inconsistencies within Star Trek episodes

[Nightdiamond]

March 'em 3 abreast in rows a meter apart and the line will only be 333km long. do it continuously for 67 hours and you'll get a million through there... assuming everything goes perfectly, no one breaks stride or has to go to the potty. One look at a freeway at rush hour will tell you this is not going to go well.

With luck they'll get maybe 9 soldiers tops on a planet before they get wiped out

Could you beam them through an Iconian gateway?

I thought about that idea too, but it's just way impracticable to be realistic.

First, imagine how many ships you would have to bring in that area just to attempt it. The fighter only holds about 42 crew members and no stats on the bigger ship, but a good guest would be what... 2,000 or so.

On trying to transport them through the gateway-- wouldn't that be like beaming into an separate, active transporter beam that's already beaming somewhere on it's own?

There would be some type of interference or incompatibilities--too dangerous I think.

 

[MacLeod]

Ships, just build a cloning facility on a planet But I think we can take the comment about millions instantly as just an exaggeration.

 

[UssGlenn]

On trying to transport them through the gateway-- wouldn't that be like beaming into an separate, active transporter beam that's already beaming somewhere on it's own?

There would be some type of interference or incompatibilities--too dangerous I think.

If the gateway acts as a wormhole, it would connect the 2 areas of space directly. Thus the transporter could work as normal.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

The greater risk than millions of troops is sending explosives through.

 

[Enterprise1701]

This reminds me of something. If Admiral Marcus in Star Trek Into Darkness wanted to preemptively destroy the Klingon Empire and Starfleet had confiscated Scotty's transwarp beaming equation, then why didn't Section 31 just beam high-yield explosives into every important Klingon facility and starship there is? It seems like a foolproof plan to cripple the Empire to me. Am I missing something?

 

[MacLeod]

I'm sorry but due to rational thinking you promotional will have to be put on hold.

 

[T'Girl]

^ Some shipship locations might have been unknown, however your idea would work just fine. Even if the Klingons then attack with the remainder of their fleet, it would be a shadow of it's former self.

 

[TiberiusMaximus]

Come to think of it, they could have just beamed Khan back and then shot him. Unless transwarp beaming is a one-way thing.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Come to think of it, they could have just beamed Khan back and then shot him. Unless transwarp beaming is a one-way thing.

It is.

Also, the technology is lost - it was confiscated from Scotty by Section 31, who developed the portable version and whose headquarters/cache was destroyed. The only person left who knows the equation is Spock Prime.

 

[F. King Daniel]

How did the Children of Tama ever develop technology let alone space flight with their ridiculously cumbersome method of communication? "Darmok" is a nice episode, but it requires a lot of suspension of disbelief for it to work.

 

[T'Girl]

Come to think of it, they could have just beamed Khan back and then shot him.

nu-Khan has ober-blood. If you shot him dead, he'd just get better.

How did the Children of Tama ever develop technology let alone space flight with their ridiculously cumbersome method of communication? "Darmok" is a nice episode, but it requires a lot of suspension of disbelief for it to work.

The CT's might have a separate technical language that isn't employed in diplomatic encounters with alien species.

Robinson Caruso on the island .... one.
The Siamese Twin ..................... two
The Ghidorah's heads ................ three
Andorian Marriage ..................... four

etc

 

[Vandervecken]

The Deadly Years (which I watched again last night):


SULU: Maintaining standard orbit, Captain.
(Kirk enters.)
KIRK: Increase orbit to twenty thousand perigee, Mister Sulu.
SULU: Aye, aye, sir.


Then:

KIRK: Oh, Mister Sulu. Increase orbit to twenty thousand mile perigee.
SULU: You mean another twenty thousand, Captain?
KIRK: I fail to understand why each one of my commands is being questioned. Now do as you're told, Mister Sulu.
SPOCK: Mister Sulu, what is our present position?
SULU: Orbiting at twenty thousand, sir.
KIRK: Maintain.
SULU: Maintaining, sir.


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ummmm...so the first time, they were ON the planet? Orbit was INCREASED to 20,000 whatever-units, and at the time when Kirk repeats his order, they're AT 20,000?





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Why is Kirk sucking and mumbling at his teeth in this episode? (Other than the obvious reason of Kirk hamming it up to look old...I mean in-universe). That's what happens with loose dentures, which Kirk at no time had the time to get.


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One thing though--except for the really bad grey hair job for Kirk, the rest of the old age makeup jobs are really very good in this ep. Very believable, especially Spock's. All 1 gazillion times better than the horrendous old age job done for Mark Jameson in TNG's "Too Short a Season."

 

[T'Girl]

SULU: Maintaining standard orbit, Captain.

KIRK: Increase orbit to twenty thousand perigee

ummm...so the first time, they were ON the planet? Orbit was INCREASED to 20,000 whatever-units, and at the time when Kirk repeats his order, they're AT 20,000?

No problems, standard orbit was never exactly defined.

If the perigee (closest point to the surface) of a elliptical "standard orbit" was one thousand miles and Kirk orders it increased to twenty thousand miles, that means that Sulu added an additional nineteen thousand to the existing one thousand for a elliptical orbit low point of twenty thousand.

Increased to twenty, not increased by twenty.

 

[Vandervecken]

SULU: Maintaining standard orbit, Captain.

KIRK: Increase orbit to twenty thousand perigee

ummm...so the first time, they were ON the planet? Orbit was INCREASED to 20,000 whatever-units, and at the time when Kirk repeats his order, they're AT 20,000?

No problems, standard orbit was never exactly defined.

If the perigee (closest point to the surface) of a elliptical "standard orbit" was one thousand miles and Kirk orders it increased to twenty thousand miles, that means that Sulu added an additional nineteen thousand to the existing one thousand for a elliptical orbit low point of twenty thousand.

Increased to twenty, not increased by twenty.

OH!!!!!! You are SO right!

 

[varek]

I don't know if this is an inconsistency, but once Data learned how to communicate with the crystalline organisms, was his knowledge passed along to the Federation? If so, it would theoretically enable humanoids and crystalline entities to communicate.

 

[MacLeod]

I don't know if this is an inconsistency, but once Data learned how to communicate with the crystalline organisms, was his knowledge passed along to the Federation? If so, it would theoretically enable humanoids and crystalline entities to communicate.

Sure it would have been, it would have been filled in the Forgotten tech section of the library computer.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I don't know if this is an inconsistency, but once Data learned how to communicate with the crystalline organisms, was his knowledge passed along to the Federation? If so, it would theoretically enable humanoids and crystalline entities to communicate.

Sure it would have been, it would have been filled in the Forgotten tech section of the library computer.

Along with Data's android brethren from Exo III, Muddworld and Holberg 917G.

 

[MacLeod]

What are these places you talking about, the library computer has no record of them.

 

[T'Girl]

^ Of course the computer doesn't have records, it has "tapes." Records are far too fragile.

The forgotten tech section also includes the 22nd century sub-section containing the Ferengi, invisible Romulan ships, and how to kill Borg nanites.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Odo is established to be a talented observer of humanoid nature.

Early in the series: "Rom's an idiot. He couldn't fix a straw if it was bent."

Considering what we know about Rom from later in the series, and that Rom was the guy going around fixing everything around Quark's bar even early in the series, Odo should have observed that.

Also, Bashir's college tennis career makes no sense if he was trying to hide the fact he was augmented.