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Living on Breen...

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On their homeworld did the Breen need those suits to survive, or did they only need them when they were off their homeworld. Was Breen ever shown on any ep of Trek...
 
They wore the refrigeration suits despite the fact that the climate on Breen was actually quite comfortable (according to Weyoun). Why they wore them...who knows. Weyoun didn't.
 
Or then he wasn't telling.

After all, at least two people had seen inside a Breen suit: Kira and Dukat in "Indiscretion", and Kira again in the final arc. Yet both chose to remain silent about their findings, leaving close colleagues ignorant - Kira never told Worf, and Dukat never told Damar. And even if we can think up a reason for Kira or Dukat to stay mum, these two strangely tight-lipped witnesses were blood enemies, with every motivation in the universe to reveal a secret that the other one was trying to keep.

So perhaps the Breen have some frankly rather supernatural way to discourage people from speaking. Or perhaps their identity is such a dirty secret that nobody dares expose it. :eek:

Timo Saloniemi
 
Looks like they might have some sort of a...snout under that helmet. The implication was a "humanoid arctic wolf" sort of thing, which frankly sounds pretty cool.

They may have had a locked second helmet or covering of some sort under the helmets, keeping their exact appearance from being known to those who jacked their armor. This seems odd, but I guess much stranger things have happened in the Trek universe. ;)

As for the seemingly contrasting statements about their planet, maybe the Breen homeworld has temperate and frozen regions and the Breen themselves prefer to inhabit the frozen regions. Perhaps they greeted Weyoun in one of the warmer climes so he'd be more comfy.
 
Weyoun didn't visit Breen, he merely said he'd heard that it was tropical.

maybe Breen liquify on on contact with air, so when their suits are busted open, they dissolve and no one can see one.
 
Even this wouldn't quite excuse Worf's comment from "'Til Death Do Us Part"...

Ezri: "I wonder what the Breen look like under those helmets..."
Worf: "They say that no one has ever seen one and lived to speak of it."

The claim could be taken to be humorous, but the setting doesn't make it sound like that. Wof could also be ignorant of Kira's discovery, but that begs the question of why the Bajoran ex-terrorist doesn't trust her Klingon Starfleet colleague.

To be sure, Worf is the only person in Trek history to make the claim that nobody knows what's inside that armor / what the Breen look like. For example Damar could very well know what these guys look like naked. Perhaps Worf is simply superstitious in some weird Klingon fashion, and makes a bigger mystery of this all than the facts would warrant.

Ezri/Dax in turn had simply never seen a naked Breen, much like she/it might not have seen a dancing Klingon or a reversing rhinoceros, and was expressing standard Trill idle curiosity rather than voicing out the ignorance of the entire Federation on this matter.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I had always assumed that the Breen kept extra suits around in case one of their suits malfunctioned. I also thought that Kira & Dukat found a couple of these extras and since they weren't being used then the suits weren't "switched on" if you will. In that scenario Kira & Dukat wouldn't have gained that much information about the Breen.
 
I prefer to think that there is nothing in the suits... or almost nothing. Perhaps the Breen are composed of just wispy vapors or electric sparks, perhaps the "suits" are really remote-control interfaces "disguised" as suits, perhaps the Breen are folded into 12 dimensions we can't see, etc.
 
Maybe the Breen are skin walkers. I.e they inhabit the recently dead of any species. Thus the refrigeration suits. Thus it woukld do no good to open the suits. Given that the suits can be worn by humanoids, the Breen must have some form of humanoid shell.
 
My three guesses are either that (a) the Breen evaporate if their suits are opened or (b) they're non-corporeal lifeforms that operate empty suits or (c) the suits are designed to incinerate the contents if they're opened. Heh heh.
 
IMO they ruined the Breen:mad:

They were this weird humanoid species {still weird:hugegrin:} from a world too cold for most ST humanoids, just to end up being from Joe Shmo Class M world:mad:

Why?
 
IMO they ruined the Breen:mad:

They were this weird humanoid species {still weird:hugegrin:} from a world too cold for most ST humanoids, just to end up being from Joe Shmo Class M world:mad:

Why?

Who says Weyoun was telling the truth? That could've either been an out-and-out lie, or one of his examples of extreme diplo-speak.
 
It's also possible that Weyoun was deceived and it wasn't actually the Breen homeworld
 
My three guesses are either that (a) the Breen evaporate if their suits are opened or (b) they're non-corporeal lifeforms that operate empty suits or (c) the suits are designed to incinerate the contents if they're opened. Heh heh.

Taking a and c together is probably close to the truth. My own pet theory is that their biochemistry is ammonia-based (instead of water) as an adaptation to extreme cold, and their suits "incinerate" them upon death or incapacity simply by turning off and venting.
 
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Maybe the Vorta can survive quite comfortably in arctic conditions.

Do the Andoria live on an ice world?

Maybe the Breen are just unable to tolerate warm temperatures unlike the Vorta of Andorians. Anything hotter than almost-freezing is lethal to them, perhaps?
 
So perhaps the Breen have some frankly rather supernatural way to discourage people from speaking. Or perhaps their identity is such a dirty secret that nobody dares expose it. :eek:
So the Breen are really Vorlons.
 
But there's a strange conflict between Ezri and Worf's treatment of the Breen identity as a great mystery, and everybody else's treatment of them as a known quantity. Riker knows they loiter near the Black Cluster and use Type III disruptors, Crusher knows their brains have four lobes, Bashir knows they have no blood, the EMH knows they have teen pregnancies, the Maquis do business with them, Odo hums their nursery rhymes... They are no more mysterious to these people than, say, the Klingons or the Romulans are.

Really, it could be that Kira and Dukat found that the creatures inside those suits are quite unremarkable, and thus never made a big deal of it. Neither would have written a full report on their activities in "Indiscretion" anyway. And Worf, the superstitious young fool, would go on believing that the Breen appearance was somehow a mystery worth a glorious quest or two.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Such an ordeal just to be one of that species!

Apparently it's true what they say: "It's not easy being Breen".
 
I think that Dukat once made mention of exiling an enemy of his to the Cardassian Embassy on the Breen homework and ended by stating with a certain level of glee that "it's bitterly cold on Breen".
Of course the Breen could have been lying to all and sundy and no -one has seen their homework. Maybe they are a lost tribe of humans who do not wish to ever be seen in the flesh:shifty:?
 
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