Like or Dislike - Vic Fontaine
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On the one hand, Vic was a tired idea that the writers were able to get some payout from (Paper Moon).
On the other, Vic was a substitute for the nightlife that the station so badly needed.
On the other, Vic was a substitute for the nightlife that the station so badly needed.
I liked the character, by the time his character was introduced, most of the regular characters were very tense because of the war. A character who wasn't impacted by all of that was a breath of fresh air as far as I'm concerned.
I also thought it was also something really interesting when they had an episode centered around 2 recurring characters when "A Paper Moon" came along.
I also thought it was also something really interesting when they had an episode centered around 2 recurring characters when "A Paper Moon" came along.
Vic Fontaine really didn't add much to the episodes, I prefered to have seen more action than him singing in a 60's bar.
I'm pretty neutral on Vic, though I do think he got kind of overused on season 7 and it seemed to come at the expense of some of the regulars.
I'd completely forgotten about Mirror Vic (probably cause I haven't watched that episode since it aired back in '99)
I'd completely forgotten about Mirror Vic (probably cause I haven't watched that episode since it aired back in '99)
I liked the character all right when I was watching DS9 in first run, but looking back now I wouldn't have cared for the actor to have a larger role. A few years ago at Dragon*Con he was clearly drunk on panel and made some really inappropriate comments to Nana Visitor and Nicole de Boer that made them visibly uncomfortable. And my wife and daughter were present - so that made four ladies total that I kinda wanted to pop him on behalf of. 
^Probably not, though I tend to think part of the appeal of Vic's is in participating in Bashir's fantasy life, out of which this fantasy might be the most generally interesting to the crew.
I don't see the point in going hundreds of light years from Earth, to a space station orbiting a wormhole in the Bajoran system, then spending all your time in a simulation of '60s Las Vegas. Why not just make a show about '60s Las Vegas if you love it so much?
Vic and his lounge might have been fine for a one off appearance, but it became badly overused.
Vic and his lounge might have been fine for a one off appearance, but it became badly overused.
BIG like! My absolute favorite use of the holodeck (second favorite, "The Killing Game," Voy).
And I really liked it when Mirror Vic turned out to be flesh and blood. I thought that was a very interesting slant on the two universes and how they could differ in wholly unexpected ways; people were too used to seeing personality differences; this threw viewers a curve ball. Too bad they did a "Police Squad" on him, I'd have liked to see Mirror Vic meet regular universe Vic, but that's a minor objection.
And Brett, 8 appearances total (counting Mirror Vic), in a show well known for its cast of semi-regulars, doesn't seem like overuse to me!
And I really liked it when Mirror Vic turned out to be flesh and blood. I thought that was a very interesting slant on the two universes and how they could differ in wholly unexpected ways; people were too used to seeing personality differences; this threw viewers a curve ball. Too bad they did a "Police Squad" on him, I'd have liked to see Mirror Vic meet regular universe Vic, but that's a minor objection.
And Brett, 8 appearances total (counting Mirror Vic), in a show well known for its cast of semi-regulars, doesn't seem like overuse to me!
One of the reasons people use holodecks is to experience things out of their ordinary lives. Vic Fontaine seems ordinary to us, but he wouldn't to the 24-century people.
I enjoyed the Vic Fontaine episodes.
I did not mind the character of Vic Fontaine on the series. As noted above, it was a good way to bring the crew out of 'war mode' every now and then. There were many forms that this could have taken, but I am a big fan of that nightclub and Rat Pack era so I enjoyed the songs and the vernacular.
On another note, I am very disheartened to hear of USS Triumphant's experience with James Darren's behaviour at Dragon Con and don't blame him one bit for wanting to "pop him".
On another note, I am very disheartened to hear of USS Triumphant's experience with James Darren's behaviour at Dragon Con and don't blame him one bit for wanting to "pop him".
Loved Vic! He loosened up the characters at a much-needed time. I'm glad they brought him back at least enough for the last scene in his bar to truly feel sentimental for the station crew and not forced. What a great, great scene! I cry like a baby every time. And I wouldn't have the same reaction if he wasn't a recurring character and wasn't known by the main crew. I didn't mind seeing him in the mirror episode. For me it wasn't realistic in-universe, but then neither is the mirror universe. So I laughed at what the writers did with that and it didn't bother me.
Strongly dislike. Easily the most Voyager-like thing about DS9. I'd even say, he's a parody of 'Voyager if it were set on DS9'. He was such a cheesy cliche stereotype and it made absolutely no sense that everybody was so obsessed with him. And they gave him the Guinan role, he was basically a 'Magical hologram'. DS9 is at it's funniest when it's not trying too hard to be funny, and Vic was blatantly trying way too hard.
Like.
I dig the crooners, and hey. He was Moondoggie and a Shatner sidekick. What more could you want?
I dig the crooners, and hey. He was Moondoggie and a Shatner sidekick. What more could you want?
I thought he was an entirely useless character. I feel like they could have written a more interesting character than Space Tony Bennett.
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