Les Moonves reiterates DSC's early fall release

[RAMA]

@miquai: "We have #StarTrekDiscovery coming in the beginning of the fall." —Leslie Moonves on @cbs All Access, #MIGlobal

@miquai: .@CBS "We couldn't afford to do #StarTrekDiscovery at the quality of the show without @netflix's help." —Leslie Moonves, @cbs CEO, #MIGlobal

@miquai: .@CBS "#StarTrekDiscovery, we could have put anywhere....There was a bidding war....They have a very loyal audience." —Leslie Moonves, #MIGlobal

 

[PicardSpeedo]

Ironic words from the CBS executive who is rumored to hate Star Trek so much that he ordered a bulldozer to be driven through the Enterprise sets while Doug Drexler was still standing on them.

 

[Dukhat]

Ironic words from the CBS executive who is rumored to hate Star Trek so much that he ordered a bulldozer to be driven through the Enterprise sets while Doug Drexler was still standing on them.

Funnily enough, Drexler never mentioned that in his blog. Probably because it never happened.

 

[PicardSpeedo]

Really? You must have missed that one on Drexfiles.com.

Don't worry, I'll wait while you look it up.

 

[Dukhat]

Really? You must have missed that one on Drexfiles.com.

Don't worry, I'll wait while you look it up.

Why don't you look it up for me since you seem to think you know what you're talking about.

 

[RAMA]

Well rumors are.. Rumors

Ironic words from the CBS executive who is rumored to hate Star Trek so much that he ordered a bulldozer to be driven through the Enterprise sets while Doug Drexler was still standing on them.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Funnily enough, Drexler never mentioned that in his blog. Probably because it never happened.

/s

 

[Noname Given]

Ironic words from the CBS executive who is rumored to hate Star Trek so much that he ordered a bulldozer to be driven through the Enterprise sets while Doug Drexler was still standing on them.

He doesn't hate Star Trek - at the time he cancelled it, the ROI wasn't good, and it had been on the air for 18 straight years.

As soon as someone showed him a way they could leverage Star Trek to promote a media area CBS wants to get into - and made a deal where the show has paid for itself and is probably going to be making CBS a profit BEFORE the first episode airs he was: "Beam me up."

CBS doesn't make Star Trek out of the goodness of their hearts or because someone believes in GR's "Vision(™)" [whatever that is/was - hell ask 100 Star Trek fans what GR's "vision" was and you'll get 110 different answers] - they make Star Trek to promote CBS and make a profit.

 

[SPCTRE]

can not wait for STD

 

[Campe]

Really? You must have missed that one on Drexfiles.com.

Don't worry, I'll wait while you look it up.

Considering the fact Drexler shut down Drexfiles several years ago and it does not appear that the Wayback Machine has much if anything archived from that page, it would be nice to see a source on this from you. That's a pretty big accusation you're making there.

 

[somebuddyX]

Well I searched "Star Trek Les Moonves bulldozer" which led to this link https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/what-is-currently-being-done.98076/ which led to this link https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/rumors-of-more-enterprise.96604/#post-3108503 which led to this link https://johneaves.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/the-fall-of-rome/
But still, I dunno. It's a business. Sometimes a dumb business decision can have nothing to do with what someone's actually making. He's probably still an asshole though.

 

[RAMA]

Much ado about nothing. Sets generally aren't kept. No one was run over. It wasn't Drexler who tried to salvage sets.

Trekkies often draw very simple conclusions, ie: sets destroyed, show canceled, the ceo must hate trek, when that's likely not the case. In fact, if you were to hate Moonves for canceling Enterprise you'd have to love him for bringing a new show back and putting so many resources into it.

RAMA

 

[BillJ]

Someone wake me when CBS decides on a release date, or gives us something worth talking about...

 

[RAMA]

Someone wake me when CBS decides on a release date, or gives us something worth talking about...

Well, the ceo stating the premiere time for Discovery is fairly significant in the light of the mass panic on social media. There's literally a mass panic going on.

Interestingly, there appears to be a notion that there is no information coming out whatsoever, when as the TrekFM's podcast correctly states, there has been a steady stream of information and announcements all along. Quite a few bits of information can be gleaned from Twitter and interviews as well as prepared press releases, which continue to give us context for the casting.

If anything there has been many times the usual information coming out than for any trek show. DSC was the first trek show ever to have a trailer to announce filming!!

Would I like some designs and trailers? Absolutely. But unfortunately, lots of people don't understand TV production, and this period from January to now hasn't created a lot of usable promotional material just yet, and they were ironing out a few issues including a new fx house. So it'll all come soon enough.


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[{ Emilia }]

Well, the ceo stating the premiere time for Discovery is fairly significant in the light of the mass panic on social media. There's literally a mass panic going on.

Are you sure you mean "literally"?

 

[RAMA]

Are you sure you mean "literally"?

Ok maybe just a microcosm of a mass panic. I've never seen anything like it though.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

To celebrate the 40th [Star Trek Anniversary], Paramount and CBS cancelled Enterprise at the end of it’s 4th season just a couple of episodes shy of the magic 100th show. Next they pulled from their warehouse all of the costumes sets, props and models that have been hidden away for years, but not to display or put them on a tour, but to clean house. Christie’s Auction house, and it’s a wrap Hollywood both set up auctions to sell off Television and motion Picture history with no regard to the significants or importance of the treasure that was entrusted to the new executives of the Studio. To end the 40th with a bang, a demolition derby would be the last hooray and what was left was bulldozed. It is a sad time when history has no meaning and is thrown away.

John Eaves said it all. I guess he's just another one of those "Trekkies [who] often draw very simple conclusions".

"We couldn't afford to do #StarTrekDiscovery at the quality of the show without @netflix's help."

In other words if for some reason Netflix bails, CBS will drop DSC like a hot potato.

 

[RAMA]

That changes nothing. More was saved from Enterprise than most shows, it's relative. The auction to me was the symbol of one period coming to an end, it was sad, but some fans got to have a piece of it. Other shows save nothing.

Netflix is tied in pretty nicely. It's star trek shows are consistently top "rated" and it actively sought to bid on DSC because of this.

RAMA

John Eaves said it all. I guess he's just another one of those "Trekkies [who] often draw very simple conclusions".



In other words if for some reason Netflix bails, CBS will drop DSC like a hot potato.

 

[Sakonna]

John Eaves said it all. I guess he's just another one of those "Trekkies [who] often draw very simple conclusions".

That's certainly what that passage you just quoted reads like, yes. This is what happens when a show is cancelled, they sell what they can and demolish the rest. Star Trek had a much grander send-off than most in this regard. Most series, even the hits, end with two hours of frenzied garage sale where the crew & friends swoop in like Black Friday hordes and snap everything up at bargain prices (it's how I got all my nicest furniture!). Star Trek got two big auctions, one administered by a top Hollywood memorabilia dealer and the other by the most prestigious auction house in the world. If that's not a sufficiently respectful way for a corporation to treat leftover production materials, I can't imagine what would be.

Granted, It's really sad to see the show you've worked on and loved for years be dismantled in a day or two. But to perceive malice in this standard and sensible operating procedure is silly.

Ironic words from the CBS executive who is rumored to hate Star Trek so much that he ordered a bulldozer to be driven through the Enterprise sets while Doug Drexler was still standing on them.

Also silly, this notion that Les Moonves has some deep seated hatred of Star Trek. That is not the level on which Les Moonves makes decisions. To the extent he even has personal feelings about these properties, they are not relevant next to the question of: is it now or do we foresee it will eventually be profitable?

 

[BillJ]

Ok maybe just a microcosm of a mass panic. I've never seen anything like it though.

Got to say, I haven't seen any "panic". More often than not, I see people making fun of it at this point.