Ha! That makes me think of another "girly" thing I can't stand: the color pink. Bleh!
Ladies, are there "guy" things that you like/enjoy?
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^I actually quite like pink. 
Well, we all know that ladies definitely need their own pens...
But let's not forget that men are the victims of unnecessarily gendered products too!
Well, we all know that ladies definitely need their own pens...
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5.0 out of 5 stars I am writing this in the kitchen., August 15, 2012
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Finally! For years I've had to rely on pencils, or at worst, a twig and some drops of my feminine blood to write down recipes (the only thing a lady should be writing ever). I had despaired of ever being able to write down said recipes in a permanent manner, though my men-folk assured me that I "shouldn't worry yer pretty little head". But, AT LAST! Bic, the great liberator, has released a womanly pen that my gentle baby hands can use without fear of unlady-like callouses and bruises. Thank you, Bic!
5.0 out of 5 stars I am writing this in the kitchen., August 15, 2012
By breemeup - See all my reviews
This review is from: BIC Cristal For Her Ball Pen, 1.0mm, Black, 16ct (MSLP16-Blk) (Office Product)
Finally! For years I've had to rely on pencils, or at worst, a twig and some drops of my feminine blood to write down recipes (the only thing a lady should be writing ever). I had despaired of ever being able to write down said recipes in a permanent manner, though my men-folk assured me that I "shouldn't worry yer pretty little head". But, AT LAST! Bic, the great liberator, has released a womanly pen that my gentle baby hands can use without fear of unlady-like callouses and bruises. Thank you, Bic!
Superman likes pink. 
When bullets from my gun bounce of Superman's chest, they explode into little puffs of flowers and glitter.
Does the barrel have rainbow exploding muzzle flash too?
Yeah, I can just see the look on the face of some of the women around here being given a bright pink gun, lordy.
Ha, fantastic. MANLY Yogurt!!! Did we emphasize MANLY!!!!
I look at those pens and the first thing I think is "Damn, how could you even read some of those colors?" And the only good gendered tea is Earl Grey and Lady Grey, both of which are good teas.
It could work... the attacker would probably fall down laughing, which would give the woman enough time to either escape or shoot him.Whaaaat?
Yeah, I can just see the look on the face of some of the women around here being given a bright pink gun, lordy.
Ha, fantastic. MANLY Yogurt!!! Did we emphasize MANLY!!!!
I look at those pens and the first thing I think is "Damn, how could you even read some of those colors?" And the only good gendered tea is Earl Grey and Lady Grey, both of which are good teas.
Superman likes pink.
Poe, yes poe, please.
Superman likes pink.
Yeah, that was a pretty good example of Poe's Law, wasn't it. 
If you're talking about the story in that link, that's about sexual orientation, not individual expression. Gender doesn't dictate one's ability at math or taste in literature or any of the other enduring stereotypes.
I don't think this works as well as the reverse. No one minds if women wear men's clothes, kiss women, and shoot guns. In fact, that's hawt.Men still have unfair pay and power, but women have been WAAAY more successful at liberating themselves from traditional gender stuff than men have so far.
Which isn't to discourage discussion of your topic, by any means. I'm just sayin'.
Well then pegging is definitely for you.
Um, no. That is one of the most famous cases about gender identity there is, and has nothing to do with sexual orientation. The reason that case is studied so intensely today, is that it is one of the strongest pieces of evidence that disproves the theory that gender identity is entirely a social construct. Gender identity is biological, and completely separate from sexual orientation (which is why there are gay and lesbian trans men and women, as well as straight trans men and women).
No one is saying that gender stereotypes are the be all end all, just that it is dishonest to deny that there are differences between the genders, and that taking that denial to extremes is as harmful as limiting people to traditional gender roles.
I don't think anyone here intended to imply otherwise.
But what's important is that nobody ought to get chastized or ostracized for liking things that are traditionally considered to be typical for the other gender. Paradoxly, we can quite readily accept that people have a different sexual orientation, but find it tremeduousely difficult to accept that people have different preferences in their every day lives and hobbies. Why would a woman be less feminine only because she likes to weld or solder? Why would a man be less masculine only because he reads Georgette Heyer? I think society as a whole must work on finally getting rid of all these outdated stereotypoes.
Knew someone that claimed to carry a pink pistol in her purse. By her own account, was terrible shot, but got cause it was "cute"Making real guns that look like toys is an exceptionally stupid and dangerous thing to do.
Cute? An instrument designed to kill a person in a highly effective way at a distance? If it weren't another stupid stereotype I'd ask if she was blonde.
Not a chance in hell of me ever dating anyone, male, female or otherwise, who carries a gun! I'd date anyone who carries a book, though! Brains are sexy!
Not a chance in hell of me ever dating anyone, male, female or otherwise, who carries a gun! I'd date anyone who carries a book, though! Brains are sexy!
Nope not blonde. Just...odd.
Thank you TSQ. We spent a long time studying this case in one of my psychology classes, and I was beginning to hyperventilate about it being misunderstood in that manner. Thanks for a succinct explanation!
^Gender identity was one of the most fascinating subjects to me when I studied psychology! Have you ever read Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides?
Did you read the post that started this line of conversation, in which RJ explicitly claimed that gender is entirely a social construct -- the thing you said you don't think anyone here intended to imply?
Did you read my response to that post?
Has there been a point in this thread where I have conveyed any difficulty, let alone "tremendous" difficulty in accepting "that people have different preferences in their every day lives and hobbies"?
I think, perhaps, you've missed the point of my posts.
Did you read any part of what I posted other than the line you quoted? Like the first part of that sentence, where I wrote:
thestrangequark said:
Did you read the post that started this line of conversation, in which RJ explicitly claimed that gender is entirely a social construct -- the thing you said you don't think anyone here intended to imply?
Did you read my response to that post?
thestrangequark said:
Has there been a point in this thread where I have conveyed any difficulty, let alone "tremendous" difficulty in accepting "that people have different preferences in their every day lives and hobbies"?
I think, perhaps, you've missed the point of my posts.
I've noticed that we have some posters here that like to do this. My theory is that they are political speech- and script-writers, used to taking sound bites and excerpts and playing them to whatever purpose they want, regardless of context or actual meaning.
Rock climbing used to be solely the purview of men but has really opened up to women in the past few decades. But then sexism still pops up - for example, there are ten route-setters at my gym and only one is female. When asked about this, the guys who work there will laugh and say that Melanie hardly counts as a girl (she's an incredibly strong climber). None of them see the problem.
But the climbers themselves are now split pretty evenly in terms of gender.
But the climbers themselves are now split pretty evenly in terms of gender.
Not yet. It has been on my reading list for ages, but I keep getting distracted! One of my former classmates referenced it in a paper she was writing about how gender is presented in popular media, so it prompted some interesting discussions. I have to get on that...
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