Kurtzman on Any New Series Reaching 100 Episodes
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Well okay then. 
They called that "waiting for the trades" in comic book lingo. And in the long run, it can have the negative effect of killing off the show.
All the DVD sales in the world on Amazon didn't save Firefly, after all.
Too bad, so sad, life goes on.
Life is more than trying to see the next entertainment whatever.
Too bad, so sad, life goes on.
Life is more than trying to see the next entertainment whatever.
I'm just saying, people often don't seem to realize there is always a give-and-take to these things.
Of course there is. That's the nature of the world. Is someone going to come in and give me more time in my day so I can accommodate the streaming schedule and more episode count? 'Cause, if not, there's not much I can do at the moment in my life.
Diminishing returns have set it?
Artificial intelligence, survivors from two factions of an Earth Civil War on a new world, faith vs secularism. Ridley Scott directed the pilot. 18 episodes produced. HBO Max pulled it... I imported the Blu-rays, but maybe its still streaming in the US on another service?
Example that proves the point... Crave in Canada, Foxtel in Australia, and Sky in the UK have it, not seeing listings for other countries. Here today, gone tomorrow, memory holed streaming.
I despised most of the Short Treks I saw, but Amazon had a deal on the Blu-ray for $7, so I bought in just for future reference in case the shorts don't survive a changeover in streaming or corporate consolidation.
I appreciate your candor but I don't follow you at all.
Many people earlier in the thread have talked about the problems of easily disposable streaming.
In this case, a well regarded series was not only canceled (Zazlav wave) but disappeared. This could easily happen to a past / present / future Star Trek project as well.
Yes, yes it could.
Is this considered bad? And how does that reflect on quality? Or episode count? Or...I don't know, anything I was talking about.
Originally, I figured it would take a month for me to get through re-watching 12 Monkeys. Now that I'm adding Battlestar Galactica into the mix, and it has almost twice as many episodes, I've tripled the number of episodes I'll be watching, so I estimate getting through both of them will take me about three months. I'm not starting until after Discovery Season 5 is finished.
Putting all of that together, I figure I'll be starting the DS9/B5 Combo Thread in September. But things never go according to plan, so it's almost definitely NOT going to be September. So, instead I'll just say some time in the Fall. I'm going to post it in the DS9 Forum, since it's going to be tilted much more towards DS9 and my intended audience is Niners. It'll be fun. One show I've mostly never seen before, and the other show I just haven't seen in a very long time.
The first season of Raised by Wolves is available on Google Play. The second season is not available.
The two seasons of this show were released on Blue-Ray. Only season one was available on DVD. They can be bought at Amazon.
Another thing about streaming services.
I wanted to see Star Trek: Generations. I learned that it was no longer available through Paramount+. So, I looked for where it was available, and Amazon Prime was listed as one place where I could see the movie. However, when I went to Amazon Prime, I discovered that it was not available there, and, if I wanted to see the movie, I would have to subscribe to Max. I refuse to pay the subscription fee to see one movie.
For myself, one of the considerations that comes into whether I watch a show on a streaming platform is knowing that this show might not survive its first season. Knowing this, does the show interest me enough that I am willing to invest the time into watching it? I left Netflix for I got burned too many times by them ending a series after one season.
The two seasons of this show were released on Blue-Ray. Only season one was available on DVD. They can be bought at Amazon.
Another thing about streaming services.
I wanted to see Star Trek: Generations. I learned that it was no longer available through Paramount+. So, I looked for where it was available, and Amazon Prime was listed as one place where I could see the movie. However, when I went to Amazon Prime, I discovered that it was not available there, and, if I wanted to see the movie, I would have to subscribe to Max. I refuse to pay the subscription fee to see one movie.
For myself, one of the considerations that comes into whether I watch a show on a streaming platform is knowing that this show might not survive its first season. Knowing this, does the show interest me enough that I am willing to invest the time into watching it? I left Netflix for I got burned too many times by them ending a series after one season.
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I look forward to it.
I'll be getting a quadruple-dose of serialized/semi-serialized series. 47 episodes for 12 Monkeys, essentially 81 episodes of Battlestar Galactica (BSG's main 73 episodes, plus the equivalent of four episodes' worth for the mini-series, and two episodes' worth each for Razor and The Plan), 176 episodes of DS9, and however many episodes Babylon 5 is (I think probably around 100 plus any Specials or TV Movies?). So I'll get a lot of diversity in length and approaches. That'll be interesting insight to give to this thread as well, by the end of it.
I want to finish BSG and 12M at the same time, so I figured I'll have to watch two BSG episodes for every 12M episode. Except I'll finish BSG first, if I do it this way, so I'm throwing in '70s BSG's 24 episodes to pad it out. I did the math, and if I start 12 Monkeys after '70s BSG Episode 11, the two series will sync up right until the end, if I stick with the 2:1 ratio from there (94 episodes left of BSG, 47 episodes total of 12M) and I'll finish both the same week, when I get there.
I want to finish BSG and 12M at the same time, so I figured I'll have to watch two BSG episodes for every 12M episode. Except I'll finish BSG first, if I do it this way, so I'm throwing in '70s BSG's 24 episodes to pad it out. I did the math, and if I start 12 Monkeys after '70s BSG Episode 11, the two series will sync up right until the end, if I stick with the 2:1 ratio from there (94 episodes left of BSG, 47 episodes total of 12M) and I'll finish both the same week, when I get there.
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BABYLON 5 is 110 episodes, plus THE GATHERING pilot movie, and the movies IN THE BEGINNING, THIRDSPACE, and THE RIVER OF SOULS.
CALL TO ARMS is more the movie pilot for CRUSADE.
CALL TO ARMS is more the movie pilot for CRUSADE.
Ahh, I'm not the only one that plans TV watching like a multi-month trip.
I have almost 100 series on my potentially would like to watch list. Almost need to do a pilot season bake off and watch all the first episodes on the streaming services I currently have access to, and assess from there.
How does this relate to the topic at hand? Known brands tend to get new content cutting to the front of the queue. I can see why rinse and repeat disposable Star Trek could enter the minds of executives.
The only benefit I see to having so many shows and so few episodes is that someone in the future will be able to look at what worked and what didn't. Otherwise, I think it's a mistake.
With Star Trek shows in particular, it'll make -- and is making -- the perception, "There's so many Star Trek shows! Too many!" worse, not better. Slowing down how many new shows there are and letting them last longer is the best way to fight it.
With Star Trek shows in particular, it'll make -- and is making -- the perception, "There's so many Star Trek shows! Too many!" worse, not better. Slowing down how many new shows there are and letting them last longer is the best way to fight it.
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No season of Disco has been included in the Nielsen data; Paramount only began sharing their data part-way through Picard S3. S5 is still a couple of weeks from being included.
I'm looking forward to it; it'll greatly amuse me if it outdoes the much-vaunted Picard S3.
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