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Kurtzman intentionally killed Legacy?

What ever happened to the Romulan fleet? They were considered to be one of the major military powers of the Alpha/Beta Quadrants. Sure, their home planet was destroyed, but presumably they didn't keep their entire fleet just sitting there, waiting to die. They were a Star Empire, with a fleet sizable enough that they were of great consequence during the Romulan War! Yes, Romulus and Remus were destroyed, but it never made much sense to me how that seems to wipe out the entire Romulan Star Empire.
 
What ever happened to the Romulan fleet? They were considered to be one of the major military powers of the Alpha/Beta Quadrants. Sure, their home planet was destroyed, but presumably they didn't keep their entire fleet just sitting there, waiting to die. They were a Star Empire, with a fleet sizable enough that they were of great consequence during the Romulan War! Yes, Romulus and Remus were destroyed, but it never made much sense to me how that seems to wipe out the entire Romulan Star Empire.
Except, the supernova comes on the heels of both the Dominion War and Shinzon's coup and efforts to stop him. So how much was left intact and what leadership would be able to assert control?

So I think it was a significant hit to an empire suffering other losses.
 
True, but then shouldn't we be seeing Romulan Warlords or something? Ex-Senetors or Admirals commanding small fleets of whatever they could get their hands on? Holding on to their own little peice of what's left of the Empire. We know what the Tal Shiar were up to, but that still leaves the fragments of the rest of Empire.
 
True, but then shouldn't we be seeing Romulan Warlords or something? Ex-Senetors or Admirals commanding small fleets of whatever they could get their hands on? Holding on to their own little peice of what's left of the Empire. We know what the Tal Shiar were up to, but that still leaves the fragments of the rest of Empire.
I would expect they're withdrawn and consolidating to build a power base.
 
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Except, the supernova comes on the heels of both the Dominion War and Shinzon's coup and efforts to stop him. So how much was left intact and what leadership would be able to assert control?

So I think it was a significant hit to an empire suffering other losses.

Nemesis, which took place after the Dominion War was already over, mentioned that:

RIKER: The Praetor's power's always been the Romulan fleet. They must be behind Shinzon for him to have overthrown the Senate.

So even after the war, the fleet was still a formidable presence. Undoubtedly it remained so after Shinzon’s failed coup. So, as Hotrod asked, what happened to all the ships?
 
It's odd they kept the cloaking device, given the treaty with the Romulans would have made it illegal for the Federation to keep that.
The Treaty of Algeron stipulated that the Federation couldn't develop their own cloaking tech or use cloaking tech on their ships. But clearly the Federation could ally itself with a power that did have cloaking technology without abrogating the treaty. Also since the treaty came into effect in 2311 and the Federation had the Bounty for about 25 years before that and never used it to give their ship cloaking technology, so maybe the Romulans gave it a pass.
 
The Suliban must have had pretty tiny cloaking devices. Their lifeboat-sized warp pods could cloak and two grown human adults could barely fit inside one. And that was more than 200 years before the Defiant or Negh'Var-class warships.
It's implied the cloacking field is generated by a ship's Deflector Shield Grid (Going all the way back to TOS S3 The Enterprise Incident); so yeah, I don't think size matters.;)
 
We saw a bunch in the Season 1 finale.
It's been a minute since I watched season 1, but I don't remember any of those ships being particularly formidable. Weren't most of them pretty small? Like, sub Klingon Bird of Prey sized?

What happened to the big ol' D'deridex class ships? Or the Valdore-type?
 
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Nemesis, which took place after the Dominion War was already over, mentioned that:

RIKER: The Praetor's power's always been the Romulan fleet. They must be behind Shinzon for him to have overthrown the Senate.

So even after the war, the fleet was still a formidable presence. Undoubtedly it remained so after Shinzon’s failed coup. So, as Hotrod asked, what happened to all the ships?
I cringe whenever I hear this badly-written line. The Praetor's power has always been with the TAL-SHIAR. Not the fleet. We've seen Tal Shiar people boss around ship captains before. The Tal Shiar has all the secrets. This was all clearly established during TNGs run. John Logan didn't do all his research here.
 
I cringe whenever I hear this badly-written line. The Praetor's power has always been with the TAL-SHIAR. Not the fleet. We've seen Tal Shiar people boss around ship captains before. The Tal Shiar has all the secrets. This was all clearly established during TNGs run. John Logan didn't do all his research here.
I don't think you're completely understanding the relationship between a military and an intelligence service.
 
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