Kurtzman intentionally killed Legacy?

[cooleddie74]

Would the ship even arrive in time were it even used at Earth? Her maximum speed in canon was Warp 5.2 and that was using the mid-22nd century warp scale. Even if the engines on the Refit at the Fleet Museum were some Warp 7 upgrade (hinted at being developed in "TATV...") that's still Warp 7 by the standards of the year 2161. The ship might have to travel several days at high warp to get to the Frontier Day ceremonies and for a 250-year-old starship that may still have 250-year-old engines that might not be a wise idea.

[*Takes off pedant's hat*]

 

[Firebird]

Fan fiction is amazing sometimes.

Unfortunately, season 3 of Picard was not.

Would the ship even arrive in time were it even used at Earth? Her maximum speed in canon was Warp 5.2 and that was using the mid-22nd century warp scale. Even if the engines on the Refit at the Fleet Museum were some Warp 7 upgrade (hinted at being developed in "TATV...") that's still Warp 7 by the standards of the year 2161. The ship might have to travel several days at high warp to get to the Frontier Day ceremonies and for a 250-year-old starship that may still have 250-year-old engines that might not be a wise idea.

[*Takes off pedant's hat*]

Thank you for not attempting to break this down to a series of un-rounded decimals or charts.

 

[Dukhat]

The bottom line is that Frontier Day as depicted in the show doesn’t make a whole lot of sense based on what we actually see in the show. Again, I think it all smacks of a last-minute premise change.

 

[Dukhat]

Would the ship even arrive in time were it even used at Earth? Her maximum speed in canon was Warp 5.2 and that was using the mid-22nd century warp scale. Even if the engines on the Refit at the Fleet Museum were some Warp 7 upgrade (hinted at being developed in "TATV...") that's still Warp 7 by the standards of the year 2161. The ship might have to travel several days at high warp to get to the Frontier Day ceremonies and for a 250-year-old starship that may still have 250-year-old engines that might not be a wise idea.

[*Takes off pedant's hat*]

I would think that the NX-01 would have been taken to Earth in a larger, more modern transport ship and then ceremoniously launched from there. When they need to transport museum airplanes from one place to another, they don’t actually fly the planes there

 

[HotRod]

Would the ship even arrive in time were it even used at Earth? Her maximum speed in canon was Warp 5.2 and that was using the mid-22nd century warp scale. Even if the engines on the Refit at the Fleet Museum were some Warp 7 upgrade (hinted at being developed in "TATV...") that's still Warp 7 by the standards of the year 2161. The ship might have to travel several days at high warp to get to the Frontier Day ceremonies and for a 250-year-old starship that may still have 250-year-old engines that might not be a wise idea.

[*Takes off pedant's hat*]

We've seen that Starfleet has tugs. I can't imagine it would be difficult to tractor it to Earth.

 

[cooleddie74]

Well, aren't you nerdy?

It would be kinda cool to see a flotilla of accompanying ships drop out of warp with the NX-01. Kind of the same thing we saw when she returned to Earth after the Xindi mission.

 

[HotRod]

Well, aren't you nerdy?

It would be kinda cool to see a flotilla of accompanying ships drop out of warp with the NX-01. Kind of the same thing we saw when she returned to Earth after the Xindi mission.

Yeah, in my mind, they'd tow her to the edge of the Sol System and let her come in under her own power, surrounded by a fleet of both Starfleet and civilian ships. The image in my mind damn near brings a tear to my eye.*







*I really love the NX-01. Working on it right now.

 

[The Wormhole]

If they had used the NX-01 at the celebrations, they could have included a shot of it with the Titan. Since the Titan would get renamed Enterprise G, that shot could have become something like "the first Enterprise and the latest." All kinds of sentimentality and memberberries. Hell, they could have even included the Enterprise D there just to really get the memberberries flowing.

Damn it, I'm better at fanwank than Matalas, despite fanwank being his whole thang.

 

[cooleddie74]

You....kind of are.

 

[Firebird]

If they had used the NX-01 at the celebrations, they could have included a shot of it with the Titan. Since the Titan would get renamed Enterprise G, that shot could have become something like "the first Enterprise and the latest." All kinds of sentimentality and memberberries. Hell, they could have even included the Enterprise D there just to really get the memberberries flowing.

Damn it, I'm better at fanwank than Matalas, despite fanwank being his whole thang.

I remember the brief period of speculation that the various ships we see at the Fleet Museum would all end up coming into play in the season's climax, with the cast captaining them to help save the day.

That would've added another touch of awesome while also justifying their presence in the story beyond simple memberberries.

 

[fireproof78]

I appear to have wandered in to the fan fiction and fan submission sub forum here.

 

[HotRod]

I appear to have wandered in to the fan fiction and fan submission sub forum here.

Fuck Alex Kurtzman. There, now it fits the thread narrative.

 

[cooleddie74]

At least the Fleet Museum docking rings give us a pretty good idea of the NX-01 scaled with a K't'inga-class Klingon battle cruiser, and also the Enterprise-A.

 

[HotRod]

At least the Fleet Museum docking rings give us a pretty good idea of the NX-01 scaled with a K't'inga-class Klingon battle cruiser, and also the Enterprise-A.

It still kinda bugs me that we never actually got a real good look at the NX-01. They gave us good looks at Voyager, the Defiant, the Enterprise-A, even the damn New Jersey, a ship we have no connection with. But the NX-01 was only ever seen at a distance.

 

[cooleddie74]

^

And the shot with the Kronos One is the best of those brief glimpses.

 

[Firebird]

I still wonder why (in-universe) Kronos One is at the Fleet Museum and not at whatever Klingon equivalent they might have? The Bird of Prey I can kinda understand, though I imagine that being legally dubious since it was stolen property.

 

[cooleddie74]

I guess Chancellor Azetbur or one of her successors (K'mpec?) loaned the battle cruiser to Starfleet as a gesture of peace and goodwill, especially after the incident at Narendra III and the Treaty of Alliance being signed between the Empire and the Federation. Makes as much sense as any other theory.

 

[Dukhat]

Well, I went to the Pearl Harbor Aviation Museum yesterday (I’m in Hawaii on vacation, yay!) and there’s a Japanese Zero there.

 

[Daedalus]

At least the Fleet Museum docking rings give us a pretty good idea of the NX-01 scaled with a K't'inga-class Klingon battle cruiser, and also the Enterprise-A.

Call it what you like, but I absolutely loved this.

 

[Tosk]

Well, I went to the Pearl Harbor Aviation Museum yesterday (I’m in Hawaii on vacation, yay!) and there’s a Japanese Zero there.

Restoring a crashed fighter seems a bit different than having a flagship though.

(To be clear, I have zero () problems with Kronos 1 being in Starfleet hands. There's any number of reasons why it could be so.)