Kurtzman intentionally killed Legacy?
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I was so excited at the end of PIC about the possibility of continuing with the Enterprise crew in Legacy.
Of course, the news came that they were ending shows after five seasons, and there would be fewer series at one time.
If it ever sees the light of day it will end up being a film like S31.
Of course, the news came that they were ending shows after five seasons, and there would be fewer series at one time.
If it ever sees the light of day it will end up being a film like S31.
I thought it was a go at the end of Picard 3
The very next show was Star Trek Legacy
Streaming on P+ to my home for me to see
Oh ah oh
Could be the next one
Oh ah oh
Could be the best one
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Terry set it up oh so beautifully
Seven, Raffi and the nepobabies
Flying out in space on the Enterprise G
Alex said no and ignored our pleas
Oh ah oh
Should be the next one
Oh ah oh
Should be the best one
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
In my mind that's how it goes
It was Kurtzman who said no
To complain on the BBS I go
The real story I don't know.
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
With apologies to the Buggles
The very next show was Star Trek Legacy
Streaming on P+ to my home for me to see
Oh ah oh
Could be the next one
Oh ah oh
Could be the best one
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Terry set it up oh so beautifully
Seven, Raffi and the nepobabies
Flying out in space on the Enterprise G
Alex said no and ignored our pleas
Oh ah oh
Should be the next one
Oh ah oh
Should be the best one
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
In my mind that's how it goes
It was Kurtzman who said no
To complain on the BBS I go
The real story I don't know.
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
Kurtzman killed the Legacy show
With apologies to the Buggles
IRL, ships aren't normally named for active duty officers.
The ship wouldn't be named after the golem, it would be named after the man who died in season one.
The ship wouldn't be named after the golem, it would be named after the man who died in season one.
I'm beginning to see why they didn't name it the U.S.S. Picard.
It would've been too confusing.
The entire thing with renaming the Titan was strange to begin with.
That would've made so much more thematical sense! Plus, look at how Stewart plays his reaction in that scene - that's not someone reacting to yet another Enterprise.
It's way more of a stretch than the OG Enterprise being rebuilt into the Refit, that's for sure. Why they even did that in the first place felt too convoluted and only a justification for Riker to be at all familiar with the ship and Shaw.
Didn't they also imply the new Stargazer was built from the old one, or am I misremembering?
Didn't they also imply the new Stargazer was built from the old one, or am I misremembering?
They should've renamed the ship the USS Ensign Ro.
Picard and Riker just call any ship which shares a name with an older vessel a 'refit', even though it confuses the junior officers, the fans, and anyone who knows anything about ships.
I think the way it was explained is that it's a brand new Constitution III class ship with a new registry, but Starfleet's shipyards still aren't what they were so they had to bring over certain things from the old Luna class Titan, like parts of the engines and Riker's jazz mp3s.
Picard and Riker just call any ship which shares a name with an older vessel a 'refit', even though it confuses the junior officers, the fans, and anyone who knows anything about ships.
Let's assume, for the sake of argument, Legacy is something Paramount is interested in doing. Let's make the even bigger assumption that they're up for adding another high-budget Trek show to their roster right now. One that would probably have to shoot in L.A., not Toronto where all of their other shows shoot to keep things cheap.
So, people on social media keep complaining that Paramount is doing projects like Starfleet Academy and such rather than Legacy.
Starfleet Academy has been in development in one form or another since—at latest—2018. (Under a different team at the time.)
variety.com
Section 31 has been in development since 2018 as well.
trekmovie.com
Fans started clamoring for Legacy last year.
I'd love to see Legacy get made. And I'd see Prodigy and Lower Decks continue for that matter. But enough with the bizarre personal attacks on Kurtzman, who would presumably have a lot to gain if the show was made and successful (that executive producer credit is a pocketful of cash with each episode) or on Paramount which seems like they might be hemorrhaging cash and not in a great position to greenlight yet another show, at least until the Skydance deal goes through or Strange New Worlds starts wrapping up. (Which, if Discovery and Lower Decks are setting the pattern, would be after season 5.)
If you want the show, be persistent in keeping the conversation alive on social media so they can see the interest is out there, but please also be positive while you do so. There's way too much negativity in the world to add more for the sake of "This show I want to get made hasn't been greenlit yet or if it has they haven't announced it yet because maybe they're saving it for Star Trek Day or something."
At the risk of fanning the flames of nerd rage:
"That's how we're gonna win. Not by fighting what we hate. But saving what we love."
* BTW, Kurtzman was the sole showrunner for a portion of Disco season 2 after Berg/Harberts were fired, though I'm not clear when precisely he took over. Y'know, the season that gave the Klingons their hair back and largely started to move away from the grimdark stuff (at least after "Point of Light").
So, people on social media keep complaining that Paramount is doing projects like Starfleet Academy and such rather than Legacy.
Starfleet Academy has been in development in one form or another since—at latest—2018. (Under a different team at the time.)
Alex Kurtzman Sets Five-Year CBS TV Studios Pact, Will Oversee Expanded ‘Star Trek’ Universe
Variety has learned that the studio behind "Star Trek: Discovery" has signed Alex Kurtzman to a new five-year overall deal
variety.com
Section 31 has been in development since 2018 as well.
Report: Michelle Yeoh In Talks For Star Trek Section 31 Series
'Star Trek: Discovery' may be getting a spinoff series.
trekmovie.com
Fans started clamoring for Legacy last year.
I'd love to see Legacy get made. And I'd see Prodigy and Lower Decks continue for that matter. But enough with the bizarre personal attacks on Kurtzman, who would presumably have a lot to gain if the show was made and successful (that executive producer credit is a pocketful of cash with each episode) or on Paramount which seems like they might be hemorrhaging cash and not in a great position to greenlight yet another show, at least until the Skydance deal goes through or Strange New Worlds starts wrapping up. (Which, if Discovery and Lower Decks are setting the pattern, would be after season 5.)
If you want the show, be persistent in keeping the conversation alive on social media so they can see the interest is out there, but please also be positive while you do so. There's way too much negativity in the world to add more for the sake of "This show I want to get made hasn't been greenlit yet or if it has they haven't announced it yet because maybe they're saving it for Star Trek Day or something."
At the risk of fanning the flames of nerd rage:
"That's how we're gonna win. Not by fighting what we hate. But saving what we love."
* BTW, Kurtzman was the sole showrunner for a portion of Disco season 2 after Berg/Harberts were fired, though I'm not clear when precisely he took over. Y'know, the season that gave the Klingons their hair back and largely started to move away from the grimdark stuff (at least after "Point of Light").
Apparently it was five episodes into season two. So after the Klingons already got their hair back.
Picard does call the new Stargazer a refit, then also calls it a different ship than the one he commanded, in the exact same sentence. The old Stargazer can be seen in the Fleet Museum in S3 anyway, making it clear it definitely was not refit into the new Stargazer.
As has been covered in other discussions, Lord Terry doesn't seem to understand what the word refit means.
Disco was a fluke (the producers were planning season six when the show was cancelled). It was a test bed.
They're not beholden to five seasons.
The least successful Trek series by the numbers is currently Discovery, not Picard.
I was referring to the pattern the network seems to be setting, not the producers' desires. The producers want to continue Lower Decks past five as well if they can get a home for it.
Sad to say, it's pretty uncommon for even a successful scripted streaming show to continue past five seasons. Even getting to five is a pretty good accomplishment these days. It's not impossible to surpass five, but I'd consider it an achievement.
They may cancel SNW after season four (especially since they have Starfleet Academy and Tawny Newsome's new show in the pipeline).
Discovery has spawned three spinoffs (Strange New Worlds, Short Treks, and Starfleet Academy).
I'd hardly call it a failure.
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They’ll wait for TTNS to actually start. Which might place SNW at 5.
TTNS = ????
What does this mean? I'm not familiar with that abbreviation.
Starfleet Academy is due to begin filming in a few weeks. It's much further along than Tawny's show (that's assuming it makes it to air).
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