"Lovecraft" was the last episode until January.
This Krypton show will either be really good or end up a disaster.
This Krypton show will either be really good or end up a disaster.
"Krypton" coming to SyFy from David Goyer
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^ Thanks for the answer re: Gotham. I need to use the holidays to get caught up on the show.
Some of the original reports of the show seemed to hint that it was set in the MOS continuity and, as has been pointed out, there is the Goyer connection. But that movie's Krypton was very lavish and spectacular, even down to the beasts Jor-El used for transport. Would any of that be feasible on a TV budget?
My guess is that it will have a similar take on Krypton to that of MOS, given Goyer's involvement, including many of the themes about castes and reproduction, but will not be a direct prequel. This will allow them to present a less spectacular and expensive vision onscreen without fans moaning about how it no longer looks as lavish as it did in MOS.
Well, they never explained how blowing up Vulcan killed off all the Vulcans in the galaxy.
^I thought there was a reference to there being something like 10,000 Vulcans still floating around?
That's a silly backstory imo, it would be much easier to simply establish that Kryptonians have no desire to colonize other worlds, they left Krypton for exploration missions in the past but stopped sending people when technology advanced enough, the room and energy needed to support life on a spacecraft can be used for other things if an AI with a few probes is on board.
Taking away the human desire to see things with their own eyes would also make them more alien. Why travel to another planet if a probe can deliver all data and everything you want faster and more effectively?
And the few nerds in society who want to see other worlds use holodecks and are still home in time for dinner.
By "Anchored" Vendikarr means that Kryptonians died if they got much further out than Krypton's Van Allen belts.
I don't remember 'why' they did this, but strangely it seemed like a good idea at the time.
I think thousands of Years after they were locked to the planet, someone having forgotten about the new limits to the species, tried to reboot the space program and sent out a colony ship, and then was amazed how every one just died for no reason.
I don't remember 'why' they did this, but strangely it seemed like a good idea at the time.
I think thousands of Years after they were locked to the planet, someone having forgotten about the new limits to the species, tried to reboot the space program and sent out a colony ship, and then was amazed how every one just died for no reason.
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From context, the reference to ten thousand Vulcan survivors most likely meant the number of Vulcans in residence on the planet who managed to escape in time. That certainly doesn't mean they're the only Vulcans left in the universe. Spock can't have been the only Vulcan who lived offworld. They were a spacefaring race for centuries before humans were, and we know they had at least one lunar colony established by 2264 (Vulcanis, where Tuvok was born in that year). So there are ten thousand survivors from Vulcan itself and an unknown number of Vulcans who were already living offworld. (And, of course, the Romulans, who are biologically Vulcan.)
There was also a Vulcan "monastery" at the edge of Andorian space up until the mid-22nd century, which also suggests further settlements off-Vulcan.
Ah yes, that sounds more like it. Been a while since I saw the film.
The Vulcans (because of a hamfisted TOS reference) have been in space for half a million years.
After half a million years of exploration, there is no logic in yet more exploration.
After half a million years of exploration, there is no logic in yet more exploration.
I think the guys who made the JJtrek movies said as much.
I want a GL Corps appearance!
Exactly. It was said, or implied, that ten thousand Vulcans were rescued before the planet imploded and that they were now an endangered species because these were the last of the them. Here on Earth, in the 21st century, there are probably about six million Americans abroad at any given time-- so the Vulcans of the 23rd century should have far more than that living throughout the Federation. They would be far from endangered.
They only frakk once every seven years. They are far from safe.
The Vulcans didn't have an empire to speak of half way through the 22nd century, controlled space whatnot, because all the charter worlds in the Federation and even the indestructible Klingon Empire, were all a couple days apart... The evidence suggests that the Vulcans lost the Age of Enlightenment, & the Romulans strip mined the heavily irradiated atomic wasteland, building a massive fleet to take their winning asses off to find a new planet that didn't have a wrecked biosphere.... What was my point?
What if the 7 year thing was not about reregulating brain pressure to maximize logic (something I read in a book) or a biological drive that had existed since the dawn of time (AMOK TIME) but an answer to logistical and urban foreplanning. There would have been serious space issues on Vulcan 2000 years ago after the bombs went off that the survivors would not tolerate anything like a normal expansion in population if 3/4's of the former living space was now a microwave oven on full tilt, and everything spaceworthy, and all the most obvious resources to build something space worthy had already been taken by the Romulans.
A creeping increase or a controlled decrease in capita until there was room to breath seems sensible, even if they had to individually genetically modify every single person on the planet until they were all affixed to this 7 year breeding cycle only seems horribly intrusive, but it's still better than living in kennels if the Romulans had stayed.
The Vulcans didn't have an empire to speak of half way through the 22nd century, controlled space whatnot, because all the charter worlds in the Federation and even the indestructible Klingon Empire, were all a couple days apart... The evidence suggests that the Vulcans lost the Age of Enlightenment, & the Romulans strip mined the heavily irradiated atomic wasteland, building a massive fleet to take their winning asses off to find a new planet that didn't have a wrecked biosphere.... What was my point?
What if the 7 year thing was not about reregulating brain pressure to maximize logic (something I read in a book) or a biological drive that had existed since the dawn of time (AMOK TIME) but an answer to logistical and urban foreplanning. There would have been serious space issues on Vulcan 2000 years ago after the bombs went off that the survivors would not tolerate anything like a normal expansion in population if 3/4's of the former living space was now a microwave oven on full tilt, and everything spaceworthy, and all the most obvious resources to build something space worthy had already been taken by the Romulans.
A creeping increase or a controlled decrease in capita until there was room to breath seems sensible, even if they had to individually genetically modify every single person on the planet until they were all affixed to this 7 year breeding cycle only seems horribly intrusive, but it's still better than living in kennels if the Romulans had stayed.
I've never seen MoS, but I loved the depiction of Krypton in the 1978 film. The crystalline technology, the no-frills environment - absolutely refreshing. It dared to do something different! If Krypton looks like that, I'll watch it. 
Well, they have to frakk every seven years-- they can choose to do so outside the cycle. Don't forget Trip and T'Pol. And don't forget how Old Spock tricked Nu Spock into recreating his bromance with Kirk so that Old Spock could "repopulate" with more Vulcan babes. Even ten thousand is double the minimum viable population-- if you take into account all of the travelers, traders, scientists, ambassadors, colonists, and military (which, as I say, should number in the millions at least) they would be in no trouble at all. That's not even considering technologies such as cloning that would be available in the 23rd century.
I couldn't even get past the Krypton scenes in MOS. The rubber bas relief body armor with the Wolverine claws cracked me up. Completely generic. It was like watching an Asylum movie or a video game trailer.
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