Kobayashi Maru (spoilers)

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

As for Luthors, I'll cast my vote for John Shea as well. He was definitely one that was able to be smoothly persuasive and coldly menacing at the same time.

Shea was perfect for the romantic-comedy aspect of Lois and Clark. He had a certain charm that made you see him as a real rival for Dean Cain's Clark/Superman.

I just love the scene in the pilot where Luthor stares down the cobra and there's a tear running down his cheek. Shea just sells a lot about Luthor in that scene.

 

[Saul]

Okay, okay, okay, I admit, I screwed up. I'm sorry. I thought the word 'spoiler' was all-inclusive. My bad.

Based on what? Is this your first spoiler thread????

There was a reason why I avoided all those Indiana Jones threads because they said "spoilers". For that movie, not every movie, tv show and book.

 

[RookieBatman]

I just love the scene in the pilot where Luthor stares down the cobra and there's a tear running down his cheek. Shea just sells a lot about Luthor in that scene.

I really love that scene, too. And I thought it was cool that Shea kinda got to play the other side of things in "Mutant X," even if that show wasn't extremely successful.

 

[KRAD]

And I thought it was cool that Shea kinda got to play the other side of things in "Mutant X," even if that show wasn't extremely successful.

Erm -- the show lasted three seasons. Given that most shows don't make it out of their first season, that strikes me as successful.....

 

[Nerys Myk]

Hackman works as Luthor the way Adam West works as Batman -- an entertaining, comic take that has to be treated as entirely separate from the "real" version of the character.

Clancy Brown is definitive, but what's surprising is how many good Luthors there have been over the years. Not just Brown, but Sherman Howard, John Shea, Michael Rosenbaum, James Marsters, and Hackman in his own alternate way. The only really bad Luthors have been Scott Wells in the first season of the '88 Superboy and Powers Boothe in Brainiac Attacks. Spacey's just sort of mediocre.

What, no love for Lyle Talbot?

 

[Christopher]

Talbot (from 1950's Atom Man vs. Superman was a workmanlike Luthor but not one of the greats. He's in the same middle-of-the-road category as Spacey, Jackson Beck from the '60s Filmation series, Stan Jones from Superfriends, and Michael Bell from the '88 animated series (although Bell deserves credit for doing a pretty good Gene Hackman-style Luthor).

 

[RookieBatman]

Hackman works as Luthor the way Adam West works as Batman -- an entertaining, comic take that has to be treated as entirely separate from the "real" version of the character.

Clancy Brown is definitive, but what's surprising is how many good Luthors there have been over the years. Not just Brown, but Sherman Howard, John Shea, Michael Rosenbaum, James Marsters, and Hackman in his own alternate way. The only really bad Luthors have been Scott Wells in the first season of the '88 Superboy and Powers Boothe in Brainiac Attacks. Spacey's just sort of mediocre.

What, no love for Lyle Talbot?

Wasn't he the same guy that played Commissioner Gordon in the second Batman serial?

 

[RookieBatman]

And I thought it was cool that Shea kinda got to play the other side of things in "Mutant X," even if that show wasn't extremely successful.

Erm -- the show lasted three seasons. Given that most shows don't make it out of their first season, that strikes me as successful.....

But not extremely successful. I never said it was a flop, just not extremely successful. (Somehow I knew someone would take issue with that statement, but it's still a valid point, so I left it in.)

 

[Christopher]

What, no love for Lyle Talbot?

Wasn't he the same guy that played Commissioner Gordon in the second Batman serial?

Yes, he was.

 

[Zane Gray]

hey WTF is the subject of this thread again? I've forgotten somehow.

 

[Christopher]

It's the No-Topic Scenario!