The first season was good. However, the second season was better. Than the third season was even better. And now, the fourth season is fantastic so far. The show keeps on getting better each season like it should. I love them in the 32nd century. I love the Federation being rebuilt. I love Booker's storyline. Agree or disagree? There seems to be some negativity in these threads. I think we are very lucky to have 4 very good Star Trek shows on right now, with a Pike/Spock show coming. I grew up on TNG and DS9. I don't think the new shows are as good as them, but they are very good as I said and this Trekkie is excited and enjoy all of them. I would have loved something like Paramount Plus when I was young.
Know What I Like About Discovery?
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I wouldn't say the first season was good, and it's still far from my favourite Trek, but I do agree that it has gotten better each season.
I think it hit its pinnacle in some of the Season 2 episodes, at least so far. I very much enjoyed seasons 1 and 2. They could derail badly, but when it worked well it was as good as Trek gets. A re-watch of Season 2 hasn't changed my opinion about it.
Season 3 was fun. It was not without problems, and was a bit too weepy at times, but it was fine.
Season 4 has been a serious decline to me. It's strange because i hear the exact opposite from people who didn't like it as much before and are starting to enjoy it.
Season 3 was fun. It was not without problems, and was a bit too weepy at times, but it was fine.
Season 4 has been a serious decline to me. It's strange because i hear the exact opposite from people who didn't like it as much before and are starting to enjoy it.
They need to get back to the 23rd century. I seem to be the only one in the world who has this opinion, but I really liked how they developed in those first two seasons, and feel their actions in the last two seasons are aberrant. Every other Trek hero who found themselves in the far future or past made it a priority to get back to their proper time right away, but it feels like they just want to dump Discovery out of the way of all the "real" shows.
I hope the series ends with them returning home, finally, a la Voyager.
I hope the series ends with them returning home, finally, a la Voyager.
I agree. I like every season but radically reinventing the series every season has kept it fresh.
I'd say that it's all relative to me. DSC is my 3rd favorite Trek series currently (although Picard S1 was really good) behind TOS and DS9. That said, I disagree that it has gotten better and better. I actually think it has gotten less and less interesting. Yes, it is more consistent, but it's also less exciting and visceral. It's starting to feel more and more like "regular old Star Trek," which is the hallmark of TNG, VOY, ENT, LD and even the non-franchise "The Orville" series.
I'd rather DSC stayed it's own, very distinctive and substantially different thing rather than it moving more and more toward being "just another Trek show." As far as the spin-offs go, I liked DS9 the best because it was so different from what had come before. I like DSC for those same reasons, but now it's moved more toward feeling like the TNG or VOY "show of the week," which felt stale and uninspired to me.
Like I said, it's all relative. I really like DSC...but it certainly isn't perfect.
I'd rather DSC stayed it's own, very distinctive and substantially different thing rather than it moving more and more toward being "just another Trek show." As far as the spin-offs go, I liked DS9 the best because it was so different from what had come before. I like DSC for those same reasons, but now it's moved more toward feeling like the TNG or VOY "show of the week," which felt stale and uninspired to me.
Like I said, it's all relative. I really like DSC...but it certainly isn't perfect.
This is closer to how I feel at the moment. Right now, despite a vested interested in the characters the overall plot feels very much like Voyager in a lot of ways. It doesn't grab me the same way and I would be lying if I said that my interest has stayed consistent through the last two seasons as the first two.
Reminds me of the funniest post I ever saw on TrekBBS.
"Top 3 characters in ENT ?"
"1. Riker
2. Troi
3. The End."
Cracked me up
I think what I personally like most about Discovery is how it's able to make things we've seen a hundred times before come across more dramatic, involving and cinematic. Sure the way it goes for spectacle and emotion over sense and realism makes it all kinds of ridiculous at times, but when the music and the visuals and action all comes together it can't be matched. The insane fight scene near the end of season 1, the trip through the wormhole, the ship hurtling from space and slamming into the ice... these are moments that the 90s shows just could never achieve. Well okay Voyager did a pretty good ice planet crash too, but you know what I mean.
I'm able to nitpick the hell out of the series at the best of times, and the turbolift dimension and flamethrowers on the bridge pushed things too far and broke the spell, but I just keep coming back episode after episode for the times it gets it right.
I'm able to nitpick the hell out of the series at the best of times, and the turbolift dimension and flamethrowers on the bridge pushed things too far and broke the spell, but I just keep coming back episode after episode for the times it gets it right.
The first season had a lot of high points, and a lot of problems. I believe I ranked it the 7th best show of the year that year. I believe the 2nd and 3rd seasons built on that. Season 4 is weaker so far. But given every attempt at Star Trek since DS9, I think it's been a huge success. Discovery is not amazing, but it's way better than we could have hoped, given the standards for Star Trek that have existed since the end of DS9. It is the best Star Trek since DS9, and it's not even close. It created an environment where Star Trek can thrive again in several different forms. It reversed the narrative where Bermantrek was the end of Star Trek.
And it's the first Trek to be actually socially progressive.
And it's the first Trek to be actually socially progressive.
I think when it's all said and done DIS will be my third favorite Trek series after DS9 and TNG. S1 remains my favorite season but I'm also enjoying S4. S3 was my least favorite and S2 had its highs and lows. The series has had some really great acting throughout and some of the concepts and storylines have been really interesting.
My biggest criticism of the show right now is the VFX seemed to go really downhill after S1, or maybe it just switched to a style I don't really like.
My biggest criticism of the show right now is the VFX seemed to go really downhill after S1, or maybe it just switched to a style I don't really like.
I had some misgivings about the Klingons and not the bald/purple/mumbly thing that gets so much attention. What I really didn't like was the ships whether it be the odd shapes, spikey hull or that silly pirate ramming ship.
But most of the rest of season one looked great. The Shenzou is still the best ship the show produced and a lot of the internal shots looked excellent even on the Klingon ships
In "favorite series" threads and polls, they're always limited to the TV Series. But my favorite Star Trek series overall technically isn't a TV Series, it's really a Movie Series: The TOS Movies. But that's part of why I like DSC and PIC so much. They remind me more of expanded movies than the TV series of old.
The first 1 season was most fun for me too. Revisiting classic theme like the MirrorU (but not suck like in DS9) and the birth of a new star drive were dreams come true.
Concepts like Control and the Angel arc felt like original stories for Trek, but shakeups hurt the productions a little, (IMO.)
But, I love where it ended up in the future. Please don't shut DISC down now when the story potentials have grown sky high. If DISC must close for business then I hope they have plans in place for new series set there. Don't leave us hanging!
Back in the old stomping grounds, multiple series set across varied time frames of comedy and drama keep the home-fires warmly burning.
What a time to be a Trekkie / Trekker!
Concepts like Control and the Angel arc felt like original stories for Trek, but shakeups hurt the productions a little, (IMO.)
But, I love where it ended up in the future. Please don't shut DISC down now when the story potentials have grown sky high. If DISC must close for business then I hope they have plans in place for new series set there. Don't leave us hanging!
Back in the old stomping grounds, multiple series set across varied time frames of comedy and drama keep the home-fires warmly burning.
What a time to be a Trekkie / Trekker!
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That might be true for me too. It was my entry into Trek for one thing. I absolutely love how it looked and it still has the best ships and bridges. I also just love the playful nature and familiarity the crew have despite being so old and fat they are about as realistic as later day Roger Moore Bond
No you're not the only person of that opinion. For me the show worked best when it was in the 23rd century. (Others MMV of course - but the 213rd century is still my favorite Trek era, and it seems to continually get the short shaft. Hope Strange New Worlds corrects that trend.)
Eh, the end credits to Discovery are the worst in my opinion. Just text on a black screen with the main title music playing again, slightly altered. It was fun when they used TOS music that one time, but other than that, I prefer probably any other series over Discovery's. Enterprise had Archer's theme, TOS had its amazing montage of aliens and episodic images, and Star Trek VI had the signatures, but other than those, there isn't anything really to write home about any of the end credits. End Credits in space, at least, are infinitely better than just a black screen. Or at least, sepia-space like in Short Treks.
Pretty sure he meant end credits because they signal the end of a show for which he has no love rather than the style of the credits themselves. But your take works too.
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