Klingon shuttles?

[MarsWeeps]

Did we ever see any Klingon shuttlecraft in TOS? Were there any shown in any of the series or movies? I can't remember any, maybe shuttles had no honor?

 

[diankra]

Not even a mention, but then the Klingons were only in... 6, I think, TOS episodes, and very few of those included circumstances where a shuttle might appear (maybe Kras had one hidden away on Capella?).

 

[Shawnster]

Ships were rare in TOS. More so pre TOS-R. Klingons didn't even have a ship until season 3 and even then it's first appearance was as a Romulan ship.

 

[Spock's Barber]

The Klingons just called Uber when they needed a lift.

 

[johnnybear]

The Enterprise encountered a Klingon Warship (a glowing corner of a triangle or the like) in Friday's Child although The Klingon (Kras) down on the surface of Capella told Kirk that the vessel was a small scoutship! I suppose that's the closest we get to a Klingon shuttle in the original series!
JB

 

[MarsWeeps]

I was pretty sure they weren't in TOS, just wondered if anyone remembered seeing any in any of the series or movies.

I know there were some small Romulan ships in TNG but don't recall seeing any Klingon ones.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Shuttles are for weaklings. A true Klingon would beat the vacuum of space into submission and slice the solar winds with his bat'leth, tearing his way to his destination in glorious battle!

 

[MarsWeeps]

^And hiding behind a cloak like a space chicken so his enemies don't see him kringing. (Spelled with a "k" on purpose)

 

[Crazy Eddie]

^And hiding behind a cloak like a space chicken

Yeah, "bird of prey" is a mistranslation. The full Klingon is "chi'Qen" means "bird of praying that they don't see us!"

 

[alensatemybuick1]

On the K'Tinga class ships seen in TMP, pretty sure there is a designated shuttlebay area, and I think the D7 would have that feature as well, so arguably a Klingon shuttle was at least implied if never actually seen.

 

[Aerotrek]

I think there was a Klingon shuttle in tng episode gambit part 2. Well it was a shuttle, and it had a Klingon in it.

 

[publiusr]

Toron class I think

 

[Michael]

Well, when you consider they might have Bird-of-Prey type ships in the TOS era, then they might not have the need for a shuttlecraft, because the ship itself could land. Just a thought.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Well, when you consider they might have Bird-of-Prey type ships in the TOS era, then they might not have the need for a shuttlecraft, because the ship itself could land. Just a thought.

They had BOP type ships in ENT, so there must have been something similar in the TOS era, we just didn't see them.

Some D7 blueprints out there have that box at the top rear of the ship designated as a shuttlebay. Pretty much the only place it could be. http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sd-ktinga.php

 

[johnnybear]

They had BOP type ships in ENT, so there must have been something similar in the TOS era, we just didn't see them.

Some D7 blueprints out there have that box at the top rear of the ship designated as a shuttlebay. Pretty much the only place it could be. http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sd-ktinga.php

Yet another reason that I don't count ENT as a true series of Trek! It just contradicts TOS all the time!
JB

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Yet another reason that I don't count ENT as a true series of Trek! It just contradicts TOS all the time!
JB

Would these help?

 

[C57D]

Would these help?

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This is the TOS section of these forum so why are you so surprised if it has many TOS fanatics on it.
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[Timo]

John M. Ford's old novels made good mileage on the well-known shortcomings of TOS, and one of his creative interpretations was that Klingons had much better transporters than humans. Why, the Klingon unit made no sound in "Day of the Dove"! With the superior transporters, Klingons just didn't see much need to drag out the clumsy old shuttles, and expressed disbelief and distrust at the human willingness to use those.

Onscreen Trek hasn't exactly contradicted the idea. We see precious few Klingon shuttles or planetfalls by Klingon spacecraft, and their ENT transporters appear to be routine gear while Archer is making the first experiments at transporting live people in field conditions.

That said, no, no Klingon shuttles in TOS or in TAS, but nothing to contradict their existence, either. It's not as if we'd have seen human/Fed shuttles all that often, either. Until TAS, that is.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[C57D]

John M. Ford's old novels made good mileage on the well-known shortcomings of TOS, and one of his creative interpretations was that Klingons had much better transporters than humans. Why, the Klingon unit made no sound in "Day of the Dove"! With the superior transporters, Klingons just didn't see much need to drag out the clumsy old shuttles, and expressed disbelief and distrust at the human willingness to use those.

Onscreen Trek hasn't exactly contradicted the idea. We see precious few Klingon shuttles or planetfalls by Klingon spacecraft, and their ENT transporters appear to be routine gear while Archer is making the first experiments at transporting live people in field conditions.

That said, no, no Klingon shuttles in TOS or in TAS, but nothing to contradict their existence, either. It's not as if we'd have seen human/Fed shuttles all that often, either. Until TAS, that is.

Timo Saloniemi

"There'll be a kh'ex (translation "fuck up") on the landing bay" was the comment I think!!