Klingon Empire Miniseries would be a Blast !

[DumbDumb2007]

A Klingon Empire Miniseries would be a Blast ! It could be set in an old world Medievil type setting and air on the cable channels or be put right onto DVD. The Klingons are a Blast, Fun, a constant source of fresh ideas and the most " human group of aliens we have ever seen on Star Trek. they are the Goodest and Best of the " Bad Guys "
seeing them in a full scale war with the Romulans would steal the show !

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I dunno...a little Klingon Klaptrap goes a long way...but if you can bring on fun crazy characters like Martok and Gowron, and ratchet back all the "you are without honor/today is a good day to die" malarky, who knows, could be not just tolerable but good.

But the Cardassians are the "most human bunch of aliens on Star Trek" - they're more human than the supposed literal humans.

 

[Red Ranger]

I always thought it would be a good idea. I'd actually like to see it start at the time of Kahless, myself. I'd love to hear him utter the famous line, "Only a fool fights in a burning house!" Then have it skip around and end up with a young, bad-ass Martok! Kaplah! -- RR

 

[Dayton3]

Horrible idea to me.

The Klingons as written by Ron Moore were simply conventionalized and humanized till they were little more than humans with bad haircuts.

This is one reason I came to oppose Ron Moore as much as much as Brannon Braga.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Dayton3 said:
Horrible idea to me.

The Klingons as written by Ron Moore were simply conventionalized and humanized till they were little more than humans with bad haircuts.

This is one reason I came to oppose Ron Moore as much as much as Brannon Braga.

Yep... everyone in Trek (and on nuBSG for that matter) is someone you'd run into at the Galleria.

SoCal culture dominates the universe. Seems like Los Angeles is worse than the Borg in that respect!

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Have you any idea how much it would cost and how much trouble they'd have to go through to show multidudes of characters dressed up as klingons with the head ridges, the budget couldnt handle it.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Fire said:
Have you any idea how much it would cost and how much trouble they'd have to go through to show multidudes of characters dressed up as klingons with the head ridges, the budget couldnt handle it.

That's why every Trek series is going to be human orientated.

 

[InklingStar]

Fire said:
Have you any idea how much it would cost and how much trouble they'd have to go through to show multidudes of characters dressed up as klingons with the head ridges, the budget couldnt handle it.

Seasons 6 and 7 of DS9 had Klingon extras in almost every episode. I think it could be doable. We would just need some good actors willing to play an entire series behind heavy makeup and an audience willing to accept that.

 

[SlyCardie]

You bring up season 6 and 7 of DS9, but that's a proven series, and producers are always more willing to invest in proven successes. Plus it's not that easy to find good actors who are willing to be paid less.

That said, I simply want new Trek, so I'm all for this idea.

People complain that the Klingons on DS9 were too humanized, but maybe the Klingons that interacted with humans were hand-chosen based on their ability to interact with humans. I also think it's a bit much to blame it all on Ronald Moore when the Klingons in Star Trek VI were fairly humanized, and I still get flashbacks of Doc Brown as a Klingon in III. >_>

 

[137th Gebirg]

I think we've strayed from the original post intent. The idea was not to create a whole new series like this, as everyone seems to be concerned about the budget of such a production, but a MINIseries, which is imminently do-able, I think. You could have the budget, something new and fresh, and something to breathe life into the old franchise. Klingons are likely some of the most enjoyed aliens in Trek history. Why the hell not?

 

[blockaderunner]

I'd like to see a mini explaining how the Klingons started out as a cunning, duplicitous, and saavy adversary in TOS, and turned out to be loud, brash, and dull Viking-esque, monosyalbic chunkheads on par with Space Mutiny's Blast Squatthrust in TNG and beyond.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

The Klingons have become more humanised because in the 24th century the Klingon Empire is no longer the barbaric race it once was, its become more peacful and has formed an alliance with the Federation, even the klingon Kor in that DS9 episode said the Klingon Empire was a shaddow of its former self. The Klingons are changeing the more and more they integrate with other races.

 

[137th Gebirg]

^^^ Kind of what they were afraid would happen in Star Trek VI when faced with the possibility of integration. Looks like they may have been right.

 

[Dayton3]

Actually, the Klingons got "wussified" because the Federation defeated them in their final major war prior to ST:TNG.

"Q" in "Hide & Q" I believe it was called refers to the Federation "defeating the Klingons".

 

[BreenLullaby]

monosyalbic chunkheads on par with Space Mutiny's Blast Squatthrust in TNG and beyond.


LOL! Great MST3K reference.


Besides the fact that there aren't going to be any of these mini-series or DVD specials for Trek in the near future, I think this would never work. I think anytime that Trek is relegated to TV mini-series or direct to DVD releases I would say there is serious cause to worry about the future of the franchise. Regardless of the failures of Enterprise and the past few films, Star Trek remains one of the most bankable franchises in the multi-media universe (thanks to a well established rabid fan base who has become accustomed to being treated poorly). Hell, Paramount is making great money off of DVD sales from 40 year old Trek episodes!

The problem with making a Klingon mini-series would be that it would be a mini-series which inevitably means it would be a low-budget affair that a network might take a chance on (they buy the rights and toss a little money to the producers --if it's a flop, it's no big deal because not much money was tied up in it, but if it sells well, it's a quick money maker that you paid little for and earned well from). With the small budget, the makeup and costuming would be below Trek standards, as would be the acting crew, which would probably be made up of a mix of no name young actors and established B and C list sci-fi and horror "talent".

Another problem with the acting would be finding good actors who would be willing to mouth the standard Klingon honor babble. Recall the last episode of DS9 (can't remember the title off the top of my head) when the senior staff is gathered to hear the news that the Romulans have signed a non-aggression pact with the Dominion; Worf's line is,

"The Romulans! I always knew they were without honor!".

Even Michael Dorn, the most experienced Klingon actor, has a hard time delivering that line without making it sound as kitschy and silly as it is.

Another problem would be hiring good writing talent with a very small budget, but if good writers were on the staff, there is a chance that they could really take something new and interesting about Klingons and make some thing that would both fit within Trek lore and be fresh and new.

 

[hellsgate]

Why not just compose the Klingon Empire mini-series as Microsoft Word ".doc" or ".pdf" manuscripts & keep them handy, for when the management of Paramount-Viacom come knocking for future TV or internet-based CG/animated series/episode pitches?

Better to have 'em handy & not need 'em, than let others possibly beat you to the punch?

 

[CaptainHawk1]

SlyCardie said:
You bring up season 6 and 7 of DS9, but that's a proven series, and producers are always more willing to invest in proven successes. Plus it's not that easy to find good actors who are willing to be paid less.

And this is the point entirely. The problem with a Klingon miniseries is that it appeals only to us, Trek fans. Trek fans tend have an arrogance about us that we are the largest demographic that watch Trek. This is incorrect. Trek fans make up a total of 2% of the Trek viewing audience. In order for any Trek venture to be successful it needs to appeal to the other 98% as well.

Producers aren't making Trek for us and Trek fans need to realize this.

-Shawn

 

[shakov]

TITS

 

[sturmde]

^ Well, although Lursa and B'etor were killed off in the TNG continuity, I'm sure we could find new Klingon women to please you.

 

[Meredith]

How about this for a mini series premise:


You have a free trader who is trading and finds that his family that lives near Klingon space has been wiped out, at first it looks like Bandits and then when he starts poking around into the matter he is almost killed by a klingon, suspecting Klingons have killed his family this one lone human must fight against the Klingon empire to find out which house was behind the savage attack on his family and to get his vengence by killing the leader of that house.


The mini series could end with this lowly human taking the mantle of one of the Klingon houses and it could show how similar in some ways Humans are to Klingons.