Kirk's Torn Shirt

[Elder Knight]

I always thought that a good cartoon would have been Doc Savage getting his shirts back from the cleaners: all nice and clean, but each ripped to shreds as expected.

I guess one could use that gag for Kirk as well.

 

[BoredShipCapt'n]

This thread title makes me wish it were my screen name.

 

[Trekfan12]

I'd like to know why Jim Kirk can't seem to keep his shirt in one piece. I haven't counted how many eps had his shirt torn to bits. I was watching "Naked Time." last night and wondered why Dr. McCoy had to rip his shirt to give him a shot? He didn't have to do that with anyone else. Kirk gets off the turbolift and Bones rips his shirt and I kept thinking why?
Spock would get into fights sometimes and his shirt got dirty but never ripped. Kirk gets into a fight with Finnegan in "Shore Leave" and his shirt is practically in tatters. Is the shirt that flimsy?

 

[johnnybear]

How many times did other members of the crew have their shirts ripped or torn? How often did we see Spock in rags?
JB

 

[Trekfan12]

How many times did other members of the crew have their shirts ripped or torn? How often did we see Spock in rags?
JB

uh when? cause I think I'd remember if Spock was in rags.

 

[m.lp.ql.m]

Torn shirt? Obviously eye candy.

I can't recall the specific episode, but I vividly remember one scene where the camera specifically and gratuitously pans down to show Kirk's butt as he leaves the room.

 

[Poltargyst]

The real world answer, of course, is that Star Trek has never hesitated to provide eye candy. The in-universe answer...uh...Kirk's shoulders are so manly they cannot be contained!

 

[johnnybear]

uh when? cause I think I'd remember if Spock was in rags.

That's my point!
JB

 

[ClayinCA]

I can't recall the specific episode, but I vividly remember one scene where the camera specifically and gratuitously pans down to show Kirk's butt as he leaves the room.

Might that be in "The Deadly Years," when he leaves sickbay and heads to the bridge? As I recall, they go out of their way not to show you his face during that sequence.

 

[m.lp.ql.m]

Might that be in "The Deadly Years," when he leaves sickbay and heads to the bridge? As I recall, they go out of their way not to show you his face during that sequence.

I believe you are correct.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Might that be in "The Deadly Years," when he leaves sickbay and heads to the bridge? As I recall, they go out of their way not to show you his face during that sequence.

Edit: mistaken reply.

 

[CrazyMatt]

How about a list of episodes where his shirt rode up over his expansive mid section?

 

[Indysolo]

No season three shirt rips.

Neil

 

[Green Shirt]

A porous spacesuit is a poor a$$ spacesuit!

Sincerely,

Bill

Don't be too quick to knock porosity, the flimsy screen face plate could have been meant as a breathing filter.

 

[Redfern]

Don't be too quick to knock porosity, the flimsy screen face plate could have been meant as a breathing filter.

Please don't think my comment was meant to "diss" the Tholian suit. It just offered the opportunity for a truly horrid pun.

Actually, I "rationalize" the wire mesh of the costumes visor to be a light polarizing element "in universe". Seriously, that was a clever solution for an issue plaguing actors since "Destination Moon", maybe earlier. How does one provide adequate ventilation for the performer? Some productions presented helmets with clearly visible holes in the faceplate, sometimes omitting the transparent material all together. Theiss' concept was elegant. Substitute glass or clear plastic for a fine wire mesh, similar to what one might find in a screen door. On Blu-Rays and DVDs, it's a bit more obvious what it really was, but for a 1960s broadcast transmission viewed on a television of that era, most audience members would have only noticed the strange shimmering quality of the material, not realizing it was screen door mesh.

 

[borgboy]

How about a list of episodes where his shirt rode up over his expansive mid section?

TOS Kirk was pleasantly beefy, but I don't know that I'd call his midsection expansive.

 

[m.lp.ql.m]

No season three shirt rips.

"Too cerebral" for Frieberger.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

No season three shirt rips.

Two things changed for Year 3: the shirt fabric and the budget. Maybe the new fabric didn't look good when torn, or maybe the show could no longer afford to destroy a costume on purpose.

Yvonne Craig has said that when she played her seduction scene with Shatner, and she was covered with green body make-up ("Whom Gods Destroy"), at first she wasn't supposed to touch him because he was wearing his last clean costume. This problem was solved with colored lighting to camouflage stains on his shirt, but it seems to indicate that they didn't sew an abundance of S3 uniforms.

 

[Timo]

It's a foregone conclusion that a jet injector would not work through gas-tight material.

How so? It's merely a matter of applied pressure - use enough and you can penetrate steel. Many a material would gracefully yield to the superior penetrating power of the medical jet and remain airtight against lesser pressure even at the penetration point, i.e. they would be self-sealing at microscopic level. Others would be macroscopically self-sealing against a single narrow penetration channel, in the fashion of WWII aircraft fuel tanks or heavy rubber suits.

I'd assume a Trek hypospray to have enough oomph to penetrate a spacesuit. Furthermore, I'd assume it to be capable of forming a hollow syringe of sorts out of the jet of gas (or forcefield, or whatever), to allow for blood samples to be drawn...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[johnnybear]

Yvonne also said she passed by Shatner's dressing room and saw him without his syrup and he wasn't very happy about it!
JB