Kirk's black tunic - Theories? Thoughts?
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Actually Kirk is taken over by that evil black parasite thing from Spiderman 3.
I like it, here is what I think:
Nero caught Kirk screwing his daughter. Kirk barely has time to get dressed and leaves tunic. Nero chases Kirk with shotgun and knocked up daughter... hilarity and adventure ensues.
Nowhere Man
Commodore
I had a simillar thought
My guess is at this point, Kirk is in the same position as Saavik in TWOK. Instead of a red undershirt like Saavik and the other "officer level" cadets, Kirk has a black tunic. Kirk is probably still a Lieutenant. Maybe Pike evaluates Kirk in the Kobayashi Maru and takes him along on a training mission aboard the Enterprise? I'm probably out too lunch completely....
red for me. red will always be command color for me. this is just backwads >_<
TNG FOREVAH!
Sorry Yellow was the original command color Red (Save Scotty and Uhura) = Death Sentence...... TNG changed the color and then allowed anyone to die.
Why do you think they call them REDSHIRTS...
It's a time travel story, right? So who says everyone in the film has come from the same point in time? Seems to me the most likely explanation is that the Enterprise command crew is assembled before they are actually the Enterprise command crew (thus why they are all younger), and sent back in time to when Kirk was a cadet in order to protect him from the Romulan who's trying to kill him to change history.
Tortured time travel crap to be sure, but I'm still guessing that's what they're doing. Even if I think that's all very convoluted and a rather stupid place to start (thus allowing canon-nazis to rest their little heads easy with an alternate timeline explanation rather than Paramount simply having the balls to reboot Trek pure and simple), it's still possible to have a good story out of it. Though personally JJ Abrams has never done much for me - he strikes me as too glib to do justice to the inspirational, character-based side of TOS, but I'll see how the trailer looks and read the reviews before I write the whole thing off as yet more flabby-Trek-of-the-past-15-years. The early production stills look pretty good, but it's all about the story in the end.
No offense, but this would be the worst story ever. Is it confirmed that Nero's goal is to change history? Please tell me it's not confirmed.
Purely speculation on my part based on an article I read:
"Star Trek's time-travel plot is set in motion when a Federation starship, the USS Kelvin, is attacked by a vicious Romulan desperately seeking one of the film's heroes."
and my opinions of the kind of thing one can expect from Trek production these days.
Like I said, while I would find something like this convoluted, that doesn't mean it wouldn't be a good, or even great story - just needlessly burdened with a lot of exposition to free the producers from having to worry too much about the delicate sensibilities of those overly concerned with how the new movie affects the previous "history" established in Star Trek.
I'm not sure that is exactly what he said. I think he said that the black shirt was integral to that scene, not the ongoing story for the movie. All those bridge shots probably come from one scene.
I don't think it is integral to the ongoing story, but it's a probably a plot point.
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This has a general, and pretty good biography of Kirk:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_T_Kirk
"He received a field commission as an ensign and posted to the USS Republic, then was promoted to lieutenant junior grade and returned to Starfleet Academy as a student instructor. Gary Mitchell (Gary Lockwood), then one of Kirk's students, remarks in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" that one could either "think or sink" in Kirk's course. Upon graduation in the top five percent of his class, Kirk was promoted to lieutenant and served aboard the USS Farragut. Having risen rapidly through the ranks after leaving the Academy, Kirk received his first command while still quite young.
At the age of 31, Kirk received command of the USS Enterprise………………"
Since the writers are saying that they're "generally" sticking to canon, this seems plausible that Kirk was an instructor at the Academy just before the "crap" hits the fan in the movie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_T_Kirk
"He received a field commission as an ensign and posted to the USS Republic, then was promoted to lieutenant junior grade and returned to Starfleet Academy as a student instructor. Gary Mitchell (Gary Lockwood), then one of Kirk's students, remarks in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" that one could either "think or sink" in Kirk's course. Upon graduation in the top five percent of his class, Kirk was promoted to lieutenant and served aboard the USS Farragut. Having risen rapidly through the ranks after leaving the Academy, Kirk received his first command while still quite young.
At the age of 31, Kirk received command of the USS Enterprise………………"
Since the writers are saying that they're "generally" sticking to canon, this seems plausible that Kirk was an instructor at the Academy just before the "crap" hits the fan in the movie.
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I think you're dead on. Clearly Saavik was a command school-cadet, not a fresh out of the Academy cadet and I'd say so is Kirk in the new film. I think Kirk is instructing at the Academy while taking his own command school classes and I think it's that combined with Kirk's disgrace at reprogramming the Kobayashi Maru and his eventual 'commendation for original thinking' that is the plot point they're trying to keep from us.
Hmm. Is that how he got his Captain rank?
I thought maybe he was looking trying to look more like Han Solo then Captain Kirk. You know the "we should have more Star Wars in Star Trek thing"
It's just a cadet uniform. Wearing the uniform doesn't mean that he's a cadet. If you saw a shot of Picard wearing a sailor's uniform on the Enterprise bridge as promotion for "Generations," would you think he was actually a sailor? The uniform is part of the plot.
Nowhere Man
Commodore
That's the best explanation for the black shirt that i've heard and this could be an emergency situation where Kirk had to assume comand or it could be that Kirk simply lost or ripped his shirt. On another note I saw a clip the other day from TOS where Spock was wearing a black undershirt then put on his blue tunic, so we can assume that it was alway's that way.
It's made from a special material that protects him from the carbonite Nero will be using.
Well, JJ said he wanted to make it more like SW.
Well, JJ said he wanted to make it more like SW.
It's made from a special material that protects him from the carbonite Nero will be using.
Well, JJ said he wanted to make it more like SW.
I'm still sticking with the Anikin Kirk angel.
