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"Kirk vs. The Borg" and "Picard vs. Khan"
- Thread starter Lord Garth
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I agree - If Wilber and Coon foresaw that putting Khan against Kirk was a better choice than Khan vs Picard, then they were certainly very clever fellows.
In fact, I'd go so far to say they were almost...clairvoyant
Obviously.
Khan should've mopped the floor with Kirk. I say that as a huge TOS fan.
One of the things I enjoyed about Into Darkness was that Khan truly came off as physically superior.
We have a winner.
BORG: James T. Kirk, you lead the strongest ship of the Federation fleet. You speak for your people.
KIRK: You've got it all wrong. I don't speak for my people. My people speak for themselves. We are many voices, all independent. All different. All unique.
BORG: Independence is irrelevant. Uniqueness is irrelevant. We wish to improve ourselves. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours.
KIRK: No it won't. Your culture will adapt to service ours.
BORG: Explain.
KIRK: The Federation assimilates cultures from all over the galaxy. We've assimilated species with whom we've had insurmountable differences. Every single time, they have found ways to contribute to the Federation. They benefit from the creativity and the research of other worlds. They benefit from their independence, from their uniqueness. We don't suppress the individuality of our members, we use it to our advantage. We're a million eyes looking at the same things from different perspectives. Do you understand that concept?
BORG: Understanding is irrelevant. Differences are irrelevant. We will assimilate all of your cultures and you will become one with the Borg...
KIRK: That would make all of us weaker. Even you would be weaker if we were one.
BORG: Explain
KIRK: Simple mathematics. Isn't two greater than one?
BORG: Yes.
KIRK: And three is greater than two. And four is greater than three. When you're analyzing a complex object, you need to view it from many points of view in order to see all of it. You with your many drones have only one point of view. But the Federation has millions. We can analyze you better than you can analyze us because we can analyze you from a million different points of view. Even now, Federation scientists from a hundred worlds are analyzing all of your weaknesses. We'll find them before you get close to Earth.
BORG: Your scientists are singular, individuals. An individual cam make mistakes. This is less likely in the collective whole.
KIRK: How many collectives am I speaking to now?
BORG: There is one collective.
KIRK: There's only one of you. See what I mean? A single collective is just a highly intelligent individual. And an individual can make mistakes. This would be less likely if you split yourself up. Attack the Federation from multiple points. Search out our weaknesses from a thousand distinct sets of eyes. That's the only way you'll beat us.
BORG: Your proposal is acceptable. We will now seperate our vessel into one thousand and twenty four subunits as independent sub-collectives that will swefnm/fkvnsklngemk BOOOM!!
Kirk would probably try to handle the Borg like he did Trelane, offering no compromise but trying to focus the attention onto him rather than his crew and would again need a superior authority to really resolve the situation. It would be interesting if, if he was assimilated, Spock could and would get him to forget.
I could see Picard and his crew beating Khan by either winning over enough of his followers or using deception, maybe involving the Holodeck.
I could see Picard and his crew beating Khan by either winning over enough of his followers or using deception, maybe involving the Holodeck.
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