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Spoilers Killjoys - Season 3

dahj

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The show returns tonight, so it's time for a new topic to go along with the new season. :techman:
 
I binged season 2 earlier this week, so I'm caught up. I'd forgotten how many big changes happened at the end of S2. This season's likely to have a very different status quo, and probably some new characters to replace the ones we lost.
Delle Seyah was still breathing when we saw her last, so I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that she pulled through.
 
Damn - I have both season on a thumb drive right here in my pocket, and a slow afternoon at work, and I forgot.
 
Damn, I completely forgot this was coming back tonight. I don't even remember where we left off.
Tonight's episode:
Boondoggie
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TV Guide says said:
In the Season 3 premiere, Dutch & D'avin, with the help of an onocious black market dealer, are on the hunt for a weapon to draw out the Hullen; Johnny revieves an SOS from Clara, leadng him into the underground world of Hackmods.
 
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Damn, I completely forgot this was coming back tonight. I don't even remember where we left off.

I'll try to summarize briefly:
Dutch found out that Khlyen's centuries-old daughter, her double Aneela, was behind the creation of the "Level 6" superagents and the plan to spread the symbiotic "Hullen" life form (the green plasma that gives the Sixes immortality) throughout the galaxy ("The J"). She and Khlyen killed the Hullen plasma on Arkyn, freeing the Quad from a Six takeover, but Khlyen sacrificed his life in the process, leaving Dutch with no answers about why she's Aneela's double. Dutch plans to take the fight to Aneela, and D'Avin's growing ability to control the Hullen will no doubt be useful in that fight. Meanwhile, Fancy Lee was freed from the Hullen and is back among the Killjoys.

While the Company's deal with the Hullen has been aborted, Delle Seyah foiled Pawter's efforts to win Westerley's independence, killing Pawter and making it look like she signed a peace treaty keeping Westerley under Company rule. With Pawter's family mostly killed off and removed from power, the Nine Families of Qresh are now the Eight. Johnny, having fallen in love with Pawter, stabbed Delle Seyah in retribution and fled the Quad in Khlyen's super-advanced scout ship, in the company of Clara, Stephanie Leonidas's guest character with a bionic gun arm.
 
Oh, dear... Clara's missing and some new character has her robot arm. That kinda feels like they were unable to get Stephanie Leonidas back and had to rewrite around her absence. I was really hoping to see more of her this season. Anyway, it looks like they're tying the whole "hack mod" story thread in with the Hullen conspiracy now.

Meanwhile, back in the Quad, it's weird to see Alvis and especially Pree fighting alongside the Killjoys. I mean, sure, Pree's an ex-warlord, but he seems happy to be a bartender now. It was also kinda weird, on a female-driven show like this, to see such a large team with only one woman on it, or even with no women when Dutch was off being interrogated.
 

I'm gonna write a letter to Syfy asking for my paycheck because apparently I just did more promotion for the series than they have ;)

That kinda feels like they were unable to get Stephanie Leonidas back and had to rewrite around her absence. I was really hoping to see more of her this season.

Looks like scheduling issues. Since they didn't just kill her off-screen she'll probably show up at some point.

Anyway, it was a fun episode, I didn't rewatch the show prior to it and it did a good job of reminding me of what happened previously and establishing the new status quo.

Ollie and Pippin were alright, Ollie seems more interesting though, with Pippin being purely a comic sidekick here, but his interactions with Dutch gave a wealth of one-liners. :techman:

The look at the cyberpunk crowd was a welcome new angle to the show, and it also looks like it will be explored even more in the rest of the season. I wonder if Johnny will get any more mods over the season along with the finger lightsaber? :borg:

So the new RAC boss lady is probably a Hullen, which begs the question of just how spread out are they outside of the Quad? And why is the Quad so important to them, isn't it considered kind of a backwater part of the galaxy?

That D'avin thing at the end, was that set up or foreshadowed in any way last season? Seemed a pretty out of the blue traitorous moment...
 
The look at the cyberpunk crowd was a welcome new angle to the show, and it also looks like it will be explored even more in the rest of the season. I wonder if Johnny will get any more mods over the season along with the finger lightsaber? :borg:

I still love it that this show uses the same "mod" slang for human modification that I used in my 2012 novel Only Superhuman. I'm sure it's a coincidence, but it's neat. I didn't have a separate term for cyborgs like "hack mod," though.


And why is the Quad so important to them, isn't it considered kind of a backwater part of the galaxy?

It was important to them before because Arkyn was one of the major sources of the Hullen plasma, and the site of the first lab that the Hullen-infected Aneela established to experiment with infecting more humans. (I'm unclear on whether it's where Khlyen first discovered the plasma, but I don't think it was.) The Arkyn plasma is dead now, but the Hullen have spent ten generations laying groundwork for their eventual conquest of the Quad, making deals with the Nine to cultivate human hosts and so forth, so they may not be as quick to abandon that investment as Dutch and Khlyen had hoped.

In any case, their goal is to conquer the whole of the J Colonies, to replace all of humanity. So even if the Quad is no more special than anywhere else, it's still in as much danger of conquest as everywhere else, and it's where our main characters are based, so it's where the fight is based. Although with Johnny and Ollie's arc with the hack mods, we're starting to see the Hullen's infiltration of other populations elsewhere in The J.
 
That D'avin thing at the end, was that set up or foreshadowed in any way last season? Seemed a pretty out of the blue traitorous moment...

There could be a lingering effect from D'avin's exposure to the green goo (especially when it he was in that lab/hospital) that he can fool the ships into believing he's a Hullen.
 
There could be a lingering effect from D'avin's exposure to the green goo (especially when it he was in that lab/hospital) that he can fool the ships into believing he's a Hullen.

I wasn't so much surprised that he can control the ship, but that he apparently left without mentioning anything to Dutch (or anyone).
 
I wasn't so much surprised that he can control the ship, but that he apparently left without mentioning anything to Dutch (or anyone).

Possibilities:

1) He's actually carrying out part of Dutch's plan and they just made it look suspicious to generate suspense.
2) The military experiment that altered his brain and made him resistant to Hullen may turn out to have been intentionally done for that purpose, and we'll find that he's been a sleeper agent for a Hullen-fighting force all along.

Though I hope it's not 2), since we've had enough arcs with Dutch feeling betrayed by one of the brothers.
 
^^
I hope it's 1)

Regarding the other brother, I liked their space skyping, but Dutch and Johnny seriously need to work on being honest with each other, or at the very least not keeping important information to themselves. Johnny should have relayed the information about the Hullen infiltrating hackmods, it's the kind of thing someone who's planning a war on Hullen would really need to know...
 
Johnny should have relayed the information about the Hullen infiltrating hackmods, it's the kind of thing someone who's planning a war on Hullen would really need to know...

No, remember, that turned out to be Dutch replaying an old recording of Johnny, one from before he lost touch with Clara. Evidently they haven't been able to make contact more recently than that, so he hasn't been able to tell her about the hack mods yet.
 
Oh, dear... Clara's missing and some new character has her robot arm. That kinda feels like they were unable to get Stephanie Leonidas back and had to rewrite around her absence. I was really hoping to see more of her this season. Anyway, it looks like they're tying the whole "hack mod" story thread in with the Hullen conspiracy now.

Meanwhile, back in the Quad, it's weird to see Alvis and especially Pree fighting alongside the Killjoys. I mean, sure, Pree's an ex-warlord, but he seems happy to be a bartender now. It was also kinda weird, on a female-driven show like this, to see such a large team with only one woman on it, or even with no women when Dutch was off being interrogated.

I'm gonna write a letter to Syfy asking for my paycheck because apparently I just did more promotion for the series than they have ;)



Looks like scheduling issues. Since they didn't just kill her off-screen she'll probably show up at some point.
Yeah, I had the same thought. The fact that they didn't just kill off outright makes it seem to me like they were hoping to get her back. Ah, I just checked Wikipedia and she's one of the main cast members for Crackle's original series, Snatched. So they probably had to wait until she was free from that. I'm kind of disappointed, because I was really hoping she'd eventually become a regular on Killjoys.
Anyway, it was a fun episode, I didn't rewatch the show prior to it and it did a good job of reminding me of what happened previously and establishing the new status quo.

Ollie and Pippin were alright, Ollie seems more interesting though, with Pippin being purely a comic sidekick here, but his interactions with Dutch gave a wealth of one-liners. :techman:
I liked Ollie a lot, so at least we got a good fill-in/replacement for Clara.

So the new RAC boss lady is probably a Hullen, which begs the question of just how spread out are they outside of the Quad? And why is the Quad so important to them, isn't it considered kind of a backwater part of the galaxy?

That D'avin thing at the end, was that set up or foreshadowed in any way last season? Seemed a pretty out of the blue traitorous moment...

It was important to them before because Arkyn was one of the major sources of the Hullen plasma, and the site of the first lab that the Hullen-infected Aneela established to experiment with infecting more humans. (I'm unclear on whether it's where Khlyen first discovered the plasma, but I don't think it was.) The Arkyn plasma is dead now, but the Hullen have spent ten generations laying groundwork for their eventual conquest of the Quad, making deals with the Nine to cultivate human hosts and so forth, so they may not be as quick to abandon that investment as Dutch and Khlyen had hoped.

In any case, their goal is to conquer the whole of the J Colonies, to replace all of humanity. So even if the Quad is no more special than anywhere else, it's still in as much danger of conquest as everywhere else, and it's where our main characters are based, so it's where the fight is based. Although with Johnny and Ollie's arc with the hack mods, we're starting to see the Hullen's infiltration of other populations elsewhere in The J.
It also seems to me that if you want to conquer an area, starting at a less important place out in the boondocks would be a good way to get a beachhead set up before you start to push into the more important places, especially in a long term infiltration.

They did a pretty good job of setting things back up in this one, I actually didn't feel quite as lost as I was afraid I would. Although I do have to confess, I did have to look up a few more details about exactly what we knew about the Hullen.
Pippin was a pretty fun new addition to the cast.
The stuff with the hack-mods was pretty cool, it'll be interesting to see if they bring them into the conflict with the Hullen eventually.
The reveal that the whole capture and everything was a setup for the Hullen was a nice little twist.
Johnny's laser finger is a pretty cool little mod.
I'm very curious to see what that last scene at the end means, I'm really hopping it's not a betrayal.
 
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No, remember, that turned out to be Dutch replaying an old recording of Johnny, one from before he lost touch with Clara.

That makes sense. I thought it was a more recent message and that he was only putting up a front so that Dutch wouldn't worry abut him.
 
I wasn't so much surprised that he can control the ship, but that he apparently left without mentioning anything to Dutch (or anyone).

Oh I just assume there was a bit of discussion of screen that we'll find out about later.
 
That makes sense. I thought it was a more recent message and that he was only putting up a front so that Dutch wouldn't worry abut him.

Well, they showed it intercut with Johnny carrying the unconscious Ollie, so it was clear that something odd was going on. At first I wondered if they were setting up a reveal that the Johnny to whom Dutch was talking was an impostor. But then she asked Lucy to replay the message, so that's when we knew that it wasn't a live transmission, that she was only able to respond as if it were a conversation because she'd played it so many times that she'd memorized it.
 
I hope they can get Stephanie back for some parts of the season, as I was hoping to see Clara again also. It's good that she's not mentioned as being dead, so I hope that doesn't change. :D
 
I hope they can get Stephanie back for some parts of the season, as I was hoping to see Clara again also. It's good that she's not mentioned as being dead, so I hope that doesn't change. :D
According to Wikipedia, Snatch either started, or all the episodes were released, depending on if Crackle does weekly episodes or all at once, in March, so hopefully there shouldn't have been to much crossover time.
 
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