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Kick-Ass 2 -Movie Discussion, News, Interviews, Pics. ect.

I'm not signaling you out or anything, I just enjoy discussing this film...and as of right now my friends haven't seen it yet :)

DarKush said:
I saw Kick Ass 2 earlier today. It was better than I expected it to be, but it wasn't as good as the first one. Kick Ass 2 lacked not only the originality of the first-which was expected-but it was also missing some humor. The funniest parts to me was when The MFer and his henchman were putting together the team of supervillains. The comedy really rested with the bad guys.

This film was pretty much Hit-Girl's and of course she did a great job in it. I also liked Dave-Kick Ass and was glad to see his friends join up. I wish there had been a bit more with Dave's girlfriend. She kicked him to the curb way too easily and he didn't seem that broken up about it.
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The first movie completely changed the dynamic of Dave and Katie's "relationship." In the comic after Dave explains to Katie that he's not really gay she gets pissed and beats him up. She only makes a small appearance in the second comic. So in that regard it does make sense Wadlow wanted to write her out, but in the context of the film series. It feels like a waste that they're relationship was so built up in the first movie only to throw it away like that.

There just wasn't enough time or space to play out some of the emotional beats for many of the characters. I did enjoy Justice Forever. Jim Carrey wasn't as cool as Nic Cage last go round, but I liked him better than I thought I would. And Night B***h was very cute, in hero wear and out.


There were only about ten people in the theater when I went to see it, at a noon showing, so I wonder what Kick Ass 2's box office is going to be. I was pleased to find that the film only cost $28 million, so they should be able to get their money back and a profit.
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When I went and saw it yesterday the theater was pretty sparse as well. So that does worry me a tad. Though I'm not sure if I really want a Kick-Ass 3, since this movie changed so much from the comics they'd have to majorly change the third comic to even make it into a sequel to this film.
 
Lyndsey Fonesca is one of the major leads in Nikita, so that might be why she wasn't in much of Kick-Ass 2. It's been a while, but I think there were several episode of Nikita this season where she wasn't in much, this must be why.
 
JD said:
Lyndsey Fonesca is one of the major leads in Nikita, so that might be why she wasn't in much of Kick-Ass 2. It's been a while, but I think there were several episode of Nikita this season where she wasn't in much, this must be why.
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I could see her not being in Kick-Ass 2 much because of Nikita. But I doubt Nikita kept her from Kick-Ass 2, she was only on set for a few days of filming. Maybe that would keep her out of one episode...but not several.
 
I knew that the first film veered completely away from the comics regarding Dave and his girlfriend, but that was after I saw the first movie. I read the comic afterwards. I'm mixed about it. While the movie gave me the comic nerd fantasy that I wanted, the book Katie's reaction was probably more 'realistic'. But within the context of the film, after all that work put into getting them together, making them a couple in the first movie, I thought the relationship was giving too much short shrift in the second film. Granted, if Fonseca's schedule just didn't permit her much time for filming is one thing, but the film could've delved more into how Dave felt about losing her without really needing Katie physically in the film no more than she was.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Kick-Ass 3 film, though I doubt we'll get one if the box office doesn't drastically improve or if it's not saved by home video sales.

I read Kick Ass 2 a while back and the ending is much different than what we got in the film. Part of why I would like to see a Kick Ass 3 is to see where they would take this story (is saga too big a word?) since it veered wildly again from the comic.
 
Admiral James Kirk said:
Got that right, Bub!

Kick-Ass 2 works! And it works because of the brutality and stakes involved!

Most superhero stories have stakes that are completely nonsensical. Loki wants to conquer the world. The Joker wants to burn down Gotham. Lex Luthor wants to sink an entire state to make beachfront property in Arizona.

What kind of stakes are those?

The Motherfucker wants to hurt Kick-Ass by killing everybody he ever loved. It's a classic revenge story and his methods are appropriately brutal. The violence in Kick-Ass 2 services the story.

I consider this a nice change. Superhero stories are hypocritical in their violence. A bunch of invincible people hitting each other and knocking buildings down and nobody ever gets hurt. It's all sanitized. Fake. Plastic. Generic.

They pander to the desensitized.

The reason Kick-Ass 2: The Comic works is because it is REsensitizing. It portrays real world violence. Yes it portrays it in an OTT way but rape, mass shootings, animal violence, bombings...

Is it offensive?

Yes!

Is it horrifying!

Yes!

But you know what?

Violence is offensive!

Violence is horrifying!

And that’s how it should be portrayed!

Superhero movies and comics glorify violence on a monthly basis!

Kick-Ass 2 makes violence ugly and that’s exactly how it should be! It’s one hell of a REsensitizing book and it’s no surprise that there are people who hate it.

Desensitization is easier.
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I completely agree with those points and they are the very reason why the second book sucks so much. All of these points were already made in the first book.
The only new thing that KA2 brings to the table is even more extreme violence.

They wanted to cash in on the success of the first book but instead of making it original and interesting, they took the easy and cheap way out by simply adding rape and toddler killing to the recipe and be content with that.
That's just lazy.
 
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Yes. It would appear that "Kick-Ass 2" will claim fourth place, finishing just under a hundred grand less than "Elysium" which seems to have clinched third spot and a big time drop off from it's opening weekend. This means that it has managed to pull in almost half of it's budget in opening weekend. The numbers I'm using are from Box Office Mojo's weekend estimates so they're not final I don't think.
 
I can't say I'm surprised. Based on the first film's box office, a sequel never should have been made. I'm glad it was though and it was best they didn't use the second comic's cliffhanger to end things.
 
Ayelbourne said:
Admiral James Kirk said:
Got that right, Bub!

Kick-Ass 2 works! And it works because of the brutality and stakes involved!

Most superhero stories have stakes that are completely nonsensical. Loki wants to conquer the world. The Joker wants to burn down Gotham. Lex Luthor wants to sink an entire state to make beachfront property in Arizona.

What kind of stakes are those?

The Motherfucker wants to hurt Kick-Ass by killing everybody he ever loved. It's a classic revenge story and his methods are appropriately brutal. The violence in Kick-Ass 2 services the story.

I consider this a nice change. Superhero stories are hypocritical in their violence. A bunch of invincible people hitting each other and knocking buildings down and nobody ever gets hurt. It's all sanitized. Fake. Plastic. Generic.

They pander to the desensitized.

The reason Kick-Ass 2: The Comic works is because it is REsensitizing. It portrays real world violence. Yes it portrays it in an OTT way but rape, mass shootings, animal violence, bombings...

Is it offensive?

Yes!

Is it horrifying!

Yes!

But you know what?

Violence is offensive!

Violence is horrifying!

And that’s how it should be portrayed!

Superhero movies and comics glorify violence on a monthly basis!

Kick-Ass 2 makes violence ugly and that’s exactly how it should be! It’s one hell of a REsensitizing book and it’s no surprise that there are people who hate it.

Desensitization is easier.
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I completely agree with those points and they are the very reason why the second book sucks so much. All of these points were already made in the first book.
The only new thing that KA2 brings to the table is even more extreme violence.

They wanted to cash in on the success of the first book but instead of making it original and interesting, they took the easy and cheap way out by simply adding rape and toddler killing to the recipe and be content with that.
That's just lazy.
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Kick-Ass 2 is just not for everyone, that's all. Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it's lazy at all.

Spoilers for the comic follow:

The violence is supposed to be ramped up. Dave's world is slowly being destroyed around him because of who he chooses to be (Kick-Ass). The girl he likes is raped, his dad is killed, a guy he meets and looks up to is brutally killed as well (Colonel Stars). His idealized world is essentially destroyed.

That's the point, of Kick-Ass 2.
 
It is definitely not for everyone. I loved the first movie, and I was hugely disappointed with this one. In fact, I have to say I didn't like it at all.

I didn't care about any of the characters, the pacing was off, it was sadly lacking the dark humour of the first movie, and I was bored throughout. I hate saying this, because I did love the first one so much...but there is just nothing in this one to make me recommend it to anyone. The RT score of 28% seems fair to me.
 
I saw both the first one and the new one for the first time this week and really couldn't say there was much difference between the two.

The biggest difference was the Banana Splits theme...
 
Aldo said:
JD said:
Lyndsey Fonesca is one of the major leads in Nikita, so that might be why she wasn't in much of Kick-Ass 2. It's been a while, but I think there were several episode of Nikita this season where she wasn't in much, this must be why.
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I could see her not being in Kick-Ass 2 much because of Nikita. But I doubt Nikita kept her from Kick-Ass 2, she was only on set for a few days of filming. Maybe that would keep her out of one episode...but not several.
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I haven't seen KA 2 yet, so I can't comment on it, but I do remember being surprised when she seemed to be playing a reduced role in some earlier episodes of Nikita's season. I'll admit I don't remember them real well so it could have been less dramatic than I was thinking when I made my last post.
 
Kick-Ass 2 only made $13 million this weekend. On a $28 million budget I still think it will be a financial success.
 
I plan on seeing it this afternoon. The score was released digitally over the weekend as well, but a deluxe score from La La Land comes out I believe tomorrow.
 
I really wish they would spread out the big releases over the year more. I probably would go see this if there weren't so many other movies I want to see more coming out around it.
 
Looks like Kick Ass took the top of the charts here in the UK.
1. (-) Kick-Ass 2 - £2,482,187
2. (-) Planes - £1,735,940
3. (-) 2 Guns - £1,423,738
4. (3) Grown Ups 2 - £1,119,025
5. (4) The Conjuring - £973,073
6. (5) Monsters University - £892,945
7. (1) Alan Partridge: Alpha Papa - £852,967
8. (7) The Smurfs 2 - £836,599
9. (2) Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters - £834,538
10. (11) Despicable Me 2 - £768,575
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Remind me, what exactly is a profit according to studios? Is it just making back your production budget? Or is it making back twice of your production budget?

If it's the latter, KA2 may not turn a profit till it hits video, if that.
 
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