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Khan was married. Who performed the ceremony?

Not if marooning convicted criminals is an acceptable sentence under Federation criminal law far away from starbases and Federation worlds.



Why not? As long as it was planned for Ceti Alpha IV instead of V, there'd be no issue.
i don't think it needs to be codified - those dudes prooved to not be detainable - i'd don't think starfleet wants to give them a conny for christmas. between a firing squad and marooning kirk chose the less final arrangment
 
As recently as a few centuries ago, all a marriage required was an agreement between two people. The role of an "officiator" arose from having the union blessed by a member of the church but was not essential.
From a legal sense, the presence of witnesses was a necessity in wealthier strata of society to stop the young folks and marrying one other without their parents' approval. Marriages without witnesses could be ignored.

TLDR: Depending on the society they lived in, Kahn and McGivers could be considered married by just their own say-so.
 
As recently as a few centuries ago, all a marriage required was an agreement between two people. The role of an "officiator" arose from having the union blessed by a member of the church but was not essential.
From a legal sense, the presence of witnesses was a necessity in wealthier strata of society to stop the young folks and marrying one other without their parents' approval. Marriages without witnesses could be ignored.

TLDR: Depending on the society they lived in, Kahn and McGivers could be considered married by just their own say-so.
exactly, especially as organized religion is more or less obsolete in trek and i can't see any marriage perks in the federation (like tax deductions or stuff like that) - marriage should be more or less a personel statement like purple hair (among humans please don't show me alist of pertinent aliens)
 
why would the federation give a shit at all?

I don't think they would. But the original poster asked under what law Khan would be married, and I wanted to explain that sovereign states essentially can either recognize or not recognize the existence of other governments (and therefore of other bodies of law).

* in my head canon the concequence of aknowleding they are where they are - those people need help, right? the federation has only two official ways to deal with them
  1. rehabilitation
  2. see them as a thread and give them the dalek treatment
  3. pretent you know zilch about them (thatone is not official and the best course of action as they most likely become extinct in a generation or two anyway)

No, I think the Federation also has the authority to consider them all as convicted criminals subjected to a legal sentence of being marooned on a remote planet as punishment for criminal activity.

exactly, especially as organized religion is more or less obsolete in trek

DS9 made it very clear with Kassidy Yates's line about how her father would have wanted her to be married by a minister that Earth's organized religions still exists in the Star Trek Universe. To say nothing of the various religious organizations we've seen among Vulcans, Bajorans, and other Federation cultures.

marriage should be more or less a personel statement like purple hair (among humans please don't show me alist of pertinent aliens)

Or, y'know, a legal commitment to one-another that also entails certain rights such as joint property ownership, the right to make legal decisions on the other's behalf during times of medical incapacity, inheritance rights, hospital visitation rights, child custody issues, etc etc etc. Marriage has and will always be more than just a personal statement like dying your hair.
 
Not if marooning convicted criminals is an acceptable sentence under Federation criminal law far away from starbases and Federation worlds.



Why not? As long as it was planned for Ceti Alpha IV instead of V, there'd be no issue.

The genesis planet blew up, and transformed into a nebula.

That doesn't sound right.

You might as well test nuclear weapons 40 miles out side of the Vegas Strip with no concern for the wind.
 
As recently as a few centuries ago, all a marriage required was an agreement between two people. The role of an "officiator" arose from having the union blessed by a member of the church but was not essential.
From a legal sense, the presence of witnesses was a necessity in wealthier strata of society to stop the young folks and marrying one other without their parents' approval. Marriages without witnesses could be ignored.

TLDR: Depending on the society they lived in, Kahn and McGivers could be considered married by just their own say-so.
Since they created their own society and their own rules, which was part of the point of Khan building his own empire, they were married by whatever rights laws they had deemed fit. All he had to say was "I take you as my wife."
 
Which means he's in charge of divorce too

Constantly bugging a homicidal murderer to up date their relationship status on the official record, can't be healthy.
 
The genesis planet blew up, and transformed into a nebula.

That doesn't sound right.

You might as well test nuclear weapons 40 miles out side of the Vegas Strip with no concern for the wind.

Yeah but was because the Genesis Device used protomatter. The crew of the Reliant had no idea about that. As far as they knew, they would have been conducting tests on a single planet that would not affect anything else around it.
 
Carol was the mission commander?

If so, then she knew about the protomatter.

She told the Reliant to find her more planets, which is what it was doing.

She probably wanted to Genesis 50 planets successfully, then wait a couple years, to see that nothing wound down or blew up, before she submitted her report to starfleet, claiming that Genesis was both safe and usable.

The scientific method.
 
Near as I can tell, colonization policy, if Khan had played ball, then the federation would have bankrolled a colony for Khan, and then millions of humans who thought that it sounded interesting to be smarter and faster.. Or just the sub-optimal like "Jules" who wanted to claw their way up to average, would have joined him.

LUISA: What we're doing is so exciting, so inspiring. We take a lifeless planet and little by little transform it into an M class environment, capable of supporting life. Terraforming makes you feel a little god-like. The first phase involves selecting the planet. That's very important. It must have the right mass and gravity, the correct rate of rotation, and a balanced day and night. The planet must also be without life or the prospect of life developing naturally. The Federation determines if that's so. Then, we take over. This station is phase two. Phase Three involves water. Usually we create basins using hydraulic landscaping, but the water on this planet is subsurface, and extremely high in salt content. We are just about to begin pumping and filtering the water, removing the salt, oxygenating and replacing. Next, we introduce micro-organisms, and when the process is complete eventually, we'll have a lush, arable, biosphere.
(in 30-35 years according to her display)
RIKER: You make it sound poetic.
LUISA: I think it's the best job in the universe.

35 years to make a planet.

Put your name on a list, and then your kids get to settle that world.

Diplomatically, perhaps Khan would cut in line?
 
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I was under the impression David had kept his use of protomatter a secret from her.

Also I'm fairly certain the Genesis Project team didn't have a rank structure like Starfleet's.

Carol did the presentation for Starfleet. Either that means she was in charge, or that who ever was in charge knew about Kirk and Carol, and that Kirk had a vote on whether their project gained traction.

If she was in the same field of science as David, then she would have picked it up, that something was very wrong.

Geologist vs. Engineer?
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea that Khan could ever have considered McGivers his "beloved wife" when we saw how he basically beat the crap out of her when they met in "Space Seed".

I'm not convinced Augments are even capable of love.
 
I was under the impression David had kept his use of protomatter a secret from her.
In the DC Comics adaptation of STIII, David says that his mother knew nothing about his putting protomatter into the Genesis Matrix. I'm assuming this was based on an earlier draft of the script.
 
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