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Khan the most dangerous enemy of the original crew?

The film hardly "depended" on the crew knowing about OldSpock. It's obvious they were made aware of it at some point, but we never do see when or why. They chose to address it in the tie-in material, but had they elected NOT to do so, it would have been as much of a "plot hole" as Admiral Kirk suddenly having an adult son named David Marcus that we never saw or heard of before.:bolian:

I brought it up because I thought it was a peculiar thing that nobody seemed to be weirded out on the bridge, especially Bones.
Right. Sort of like how nobody seemed weirded out by the fact that Kirk had an adult son named David. They knew about it already, or at least knew enough about Kirk to know that he had a son even if they didn't know anything about him.

Wouldn't be sure if that's comparable. They at least built up to that reveal, so it's not like it came out of nowhere. Similar to the magic blood in STID. Many criticize it, saying it came out of nowhere. Even though I don't like the idea of the magic blood, at least they had built up to that from the beginning, so I give them credit on that.

Same thing in STID: they knew about OldSpock's time adventures. Which is why Uhura doesn't question him when he asks her to route a call to New Vulcan.
Thing is, until he shows up on the viewscreen, you only know that Spock, Kirk, Scotty and his Ewok are the only people aware of him. I'm speaking from the perspective of a viewer who only watches the films and doesn't read any comics or play the video games. In that moment I was a bit thrown off.

Either way, the tie-in marketting isn't that crucial to the film in the first place; again, Carol and David made their debut in Wrath of Khan and their existence wasn't even HINTED at in the prior Trek novels (or the Animated Series, which for years was also considered a non-canon tie in production).
It didn't need to be, as we learn that Kirk promised that he would stay away and he did so by moving on with his life. It's clearly a subject that still guts him to that day, so it's likely something he was never comfortable talking about with anyone, not even his friends. McCoy is certainly aware of that side of Kirk and makes a remark about it, to which Kirk replies "as a physician you of all people should appreciate the danger of re-opening old wounds."
 
So back to the OP. Two words: Doomsday Machine as most dangerous enemy. Eats planets. Neutronium hull. Phasers bounce off.

I'd like to see Kirk & crew take that on without the Constellation hanging around.
 
Can a thing be an enemy? It was a machine, there was no evil or malevolence. It was simply doing what it was designed to do. The "foe" in that episode was Decker.
 
So back to the OP. Two words: Doomsday Machine as most dangerous enemy. Eats planets. Neutronium hull. Phasers bounce off.

I'd like to see Kirk & crew take that on without the Constellation hanging around.

And that's how you send the Nu-Enterprise out in glory and bookend the movies: Kirk piloting the Enterprise down the throat of the Doomsday Machine while the crew evacuates in shuttles.
 
is Khan STID the original Khan? This question was on the air in the comic Star Trek:Khan #1.
 
is Khan STID the original Khan?

Looks like it so far.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1715752/star-trek-khan-comic-darkness.jhtml

"Star Trek: Khan #1," released in comic-book stores Wednesday by IDW Comics, takes place right before the end of "Star Trek Into Darkness," specifically between the scene where Kirk wakes up in the hospital after "dying," and Cumberbatch's Khan is shown to be cryogenically re-frozen. The comic kicks off at the trial of Khan, with Starfleet officers showing off a picture of Montalban's Khan and asking why Cumberkhan "looks nothing like him." Khan then jumps into his backstory, in order to reveal the truth.

That's when Khan's ethnicity gets even more confusing, and writer Mike Johnson (along with "Star Trek" movie writer and story consultant on the comic Roberto Orci) pay homage not just to the movies and original series, but also Khan's original conception. In the original "Star Trek" TV series, Khan wasn't Caucasian or even Latino: He was from Northern India. In the comic, we learn that Noonien Singh was an orphan from the streets of India, kidnapped into a eugenics program and built into a super-smart super-strong super-human. By the end of the first issue of the comic, Khan has led his fellow eugenics-fueled orphans into a rebellion — but he's still very obviously Indian in heritage.
 
He needed to find out anything useful about Khan's character (information that wouldn't just come from biographical information in the library computer).

Plus looking up historical info on Khan is beyond useless seeing as in Space Seed they did that and Khan still almost killed them all.
 
Can a thing be an enemy? It was a machine, there was no evil or malevolence. It was simply doing what it was designed to do. The "foe" in that episode was Decker.

Erm, no. He really wasn't. He was a hero. :)
He was kind of both, actually. Despite his lack of malevolence he turned out to be the singular antagonist for the entire episode; his suicide mission into the doomsday machine ACCIDENTALLY revealed a weakness in the machine's design that Enterprise was able to exploit.

Kirk was the hero. Decker was just the latest in a series of Starfleet captains who crack under the pressure and get everyone killed.
 
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