Kes?

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Spending money on weddings is unbelievably stupid.

Though yeah, why would you even bother giving people presents if you knew the decent stuff that lasted would be divied up in 10 years. Okay maybe wedding presents would morph into disposable items only. 10,000 paper plates, YAY!! Though they suck in that you can't microwave them which someone should fix.

 

[Guy Gardener]

If someone pissed off Janeway, like a super power, she could marry them to anyone else she felt like.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Because she's captain?

Yes that word "can" is certainly powerful.

 

[Guy Gardener]

No, no... In Basics, just before he belts her across the bridge, she says "Man and wife!" and then stabs him in the throat, therefore becoming Maje of the Kazon Nistrim.

It would have been just that easy.

 

[iguana_tonante]

One interesting thing about Kes, or actually Ocampans, was that they carried their pregnancy on their shoulders, which makes one wonder about how/where they had sex.

Straight sex in the rear, buttsex in the front?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

OMG.. you could get soo rich that way.

From Guy's piracy marriage. Not from the buttsex.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Don't be such a sadsack.

I'm sure we could all get rich from butsex.

 

[AgentCoop]

Butt sex shouldn't be for profit. Butt sex is the inalienable right of every sentient being.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

But so should money. Why not combine these two great things?

 

[Draculasaurus]

Front butt or not, Kes was great.
Neelix getting all creepy about her was one of the highlights of Voyager.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I don't want to think about front butt because of the toilet.

Do you think Starfleet vessels have toilets that you can announce as you enter them "adjust, Bolian" and the bowl increases by 5? etc?

Okay maybe I do want to think about the front butt.

 

[Guy Gardener]

But so should money. Why not combine these two great things?

Because that would require turning a person inside out.

Considering the producer of NBC's Hannibal, Bryan Fuller cut his teeth on Voyager, "our" show is surprisingly lacking so much gore.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

The only gore is in Threshold. Paris, tongue..

 

[iguana_tonante]

I don't want to think about front butt because of the toilet.

Do you think Starfleet vessels have toilets that you can announce as you enter them "adjust, Bolian" and the bowl increases by 5? etc?

Okay maybe I do want to think about the front butt.

It's a fascinating topic indeed. I'd surmise she straddles the toilet instead of sitting on it?

See? So many questions!

 

[Guy Gardener]

It's so sad that his tongue fell out before it got to caress Janeway during their clammy coitus.

Actually... since "everything" fell off or sealed up or grew in uncontrollably weird directions... The two of them turned into fricking space salamanders... Advanced Humans...

When they got their old bodies back, or at least the appearance of their old bodies technically, weren't Janeway and Paris both revirginized because they had completely new freshly grown (built?) junk?

(Paris' winkle might have fallen off while they were still on Voyager and the Doctor has it in a specimen jar.)

If Janeway was grown to factory specifications, from her genetic code... Her hymen would be intact and she would be back to her first set of teeth and neither of them would have a belly button.

Did Janeway have a hymen after Threshhold (Oh god no, Janeway's hymen is the titular character of this episode!) or did the Doctor extract it/sculpt it and a lot of the rest of her body surgically, so that Kathryn would have a body almost identical to the one she had before this transformation begun?

Janeway's fished out hymen is in a specimen jar next-door to the specimen jar holding Paris's fallen penis.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

I think it is a little weird to marry someone with a built in use by date in a handful of years. Okay people do that if you marry someone with a terminal illness, and I don't find that creepy, but it's almost like Tom had it planned to have his Kes and his B'Elanna too because after a couple years she's dead and he can end up with B'Elanna. I'm thinking this idea was the brainchild of someone in a bad marriage who wished they had a noble way out.

And the baby thing.. would you have a baby with someone if you knew that baby would grow old and die before you were in Federation human middle age? I will give Tom a pass on that one though, probably figured that the super FedMed would extend the lifespan to something with a lot more birthdays. And it's not like Tom has to plan ahead and have children to take care of him in his dodderhood unlike the 99% of the planet earth has ended up doing.

Interesting idea about Tom's serial marriage plans, Teacake. Unfortunately for that to work B'Elanna would have to be alive, which was not the case in "Before and After".

I'm betting Tom never really thought about the short life span thing re: his kids or else he was hoping that he would die on a mission before they did. Just imagine, if Chakotay got the ship home in the same amount of time that Janeway did (23 years) and if Tom's daughter was born in season 4 (Year of Hell episode) then his daughter would be dead by year 13, his grandson by year 17, his great grandchild by year 21 and his great great grandchild will be nearing their late middle age by the time they hit Earth.

Human beings in the Federation are emotionally more put together in a touchy feely 90s too many hugs sort of way... Does human on Human divorce still exist?

(Yes there is evidence of Human on Klingon divorce, but lets be serious. Humans shouldn't even survive a Klingon honeymoon god forbid the courtship.)

If death is the only way out, maybe for their own mental health, they don't like to anticipate their lengthy or mayfly lifespans?

Didn't Beverly and Jean Luc divorce in the finale's future?

"You kept the name."

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Interesting idea about Tom's serial marriage plans, Teacake. Unfortunately for that to work B'Elanna would have to be alive, which was not the case in "Before and After".

Well what do you know.. or what do I know, obviously not much since the pre-7 seasons haven't had a lot of rewatch on my part.

Okay, a Delaney sister.

I'm betting Tom never really thought about the short life span thing re: his kids or else he was hoping that he would die on a mission before they did. Just imagine, if Chakotay got the ship home in the same amount of time that Janeway did (23 years) and if Tom's daughter was born in season 4 (Year of Hell episode) then his daughter would be dead by year 13, his grandson by year 17, his great grandchild by year 21 and his great great grandchild will be nearing their late middle age by the time they hit Earth.

You'd be totally jaded and over family after watching them all get born, get old and die like that. It would suck.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

titular character

Nailed it. And thanks to evolution nailed it again.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Didn't Beverly and Jean Luc divorce in the finale's future?

"You kept the name."

Thank you for outthinking me.

Although Picard was mentally ill, and on the path to death.

That's a medical reason to get out of a marriage.

Although maybe she pulled the ripcord before that became obvious?

But she had already outlived one husband, so maybe she was more disillusioned than a newly wed on her first go round?

 

[Melakon]

Of the original cast, she was the least interesting character for me.

Less interesting than Harry Kim? That's impossible.

Harry was just another variation of the Jose Tyler template from TOS: The Cage. Sulu and later Chekov filled that slot originally. It's all a variation of the Eager Young Space Cadet from Duck Dodgers in the 24th and a Half Century, played by Porky Pig.