If we go by what the writer's have said, Pegg has said essentially that the Abramsverse was always its own timeline.
Kelvin Timeline all but confirmed
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If we go by what the writer's have said, Pegg has said essentially that the Abramsverse was always its own timeline.
Yes, technically it does but in my own Fanon I like to see it only existing in the Kelvin Universe.
does it really make a difference?
The only reason they called the Abrams movies "Kelvin Timeline" was so that they could be free of all the considerable canon and stuff from DS9 through Nemesis.
No one in CBS, Paramount or the Discovery production gives a damn. New show, new universe as far as im concerned.
I see it that way too.
I see it as a branch starting in 2233. But your interpretation (or his) doesn't impact my enjoyment of the movies. Nor should mine (or Orci/Kurtzman who say it branched) impact your enjoyment of the movies.
Do they have humpback whales in their oceans? lol
I see it as a branch starting in 2233. But your interpretation (or his) doesn't impact my enjoyment of the movies. Nor should mine (or Orci/Kurtzman who say it branched) impact your enjoyment of the movies.
Exactly!!
Discovery can be one of the parallel universes Worf experienced , maybe the one where the Borg wipes them all out? Yeah I would watch that, just to see Riker 's scruffy beard... 
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It matters to me because I see the Kelvin-timeline as being full of potential and in need of fleshing out, whereas the Prime-timeline would be creatively stifling unless you disregard the old canon (at which point you can't really call it Prime anymore.) I don't necessarily want all those old villains back, but I'd take them over Klingons.
The statements they've made have been all over the place. Fuller said it's Prime but they're changing a bunch of stuff, Meyer said it's in its own niche that allows for another stream, and Sullivan said it's a true prequel to TOS. Since those all clash with each other the only thing I trust is what I see in the trailer, which looks way more like Kelvin to me.
Looks like NX-01 and Kelvin, before the Narada to me
That's not all over the place.
Fuller says it's prime. but they're changing the look (and probably some sexist details, such as the much mentioned woman in command thing) - as they have done before, and will do again.
Meyer says it has it's own niche: Doesn't exclude it from Prime. That can be as simple as saying the niche is another ship - just like DS9 found a niche in TNG timelines, or as complex as a whole different division of Starfleet.
Sullivan said it's a true prequel to TOS. which isn't all over the place either as that sounds pretty much as Fuller has described it.
You don't see Kelvin timeline. You see production values of our era. As has been stated by half the populous of this board - modern cinematography and design doesn't mean it's a specific timeline, it just means it shares the modern day design and production philosophies of another modern day production.
If anything - I'd remove VOY from that list. They had an episode that took place in 1996. without any reference to the Eugenics Wars (which were worldwide: to quote Spock from Space Seed: "Whole populations bombed out of existence.".
If if you go by previous JJ-Verse writers, it's an offshoot of the main Timeline. And that's two writers to one.
But they are all basically saying the same thing. It's stories will fit in the prime timeline. It's visuals look different because it's made in 2017. They clearly left enough visuals as clues showing fans it's in the prime timeline. The communicator, tricorder, transporter effect all place it in the prime timeline. The uniforms aren't a big deal. There's only ten years difference before TOS and wrath of Khan and look how different those uniforms are. Verdict: It's prime timeline (fuller) Filling a niche in the prime timeline that hasn't ever been written about (Myers) thus meaning it's a true TOS prequel (Sullivan). There is no contradiction. And actually it doesn't look much like Kelvin at all. This looks dark and dramatic, Kelvin looked like a god damned Apple Store. Uniforms are different than kelvin. And Nero was already in the kelvin timeline by the time of discovery yet has no involvement.
The series Finale. While the episode took place in the 24th century Prime Universe, the holoprogram of the NX-01 and crew was called historical by Riker, not fictional or alternate
It's prime timeline. It's been said repeatedly. If you want a cheesy look with cardboard sets watch fan films on YouTube but trek is an image of the future. We have touch screens now why wouldn't they have them in the 2250s.
http://trekmovie.com/2016/08/28/bre...k-discovery-details-in-august-27th-interview/
If what Fuller said then remains true, then this discussion will go on forever because the series will never actually make it clear which universe it's in. The part of that interview I'm actually more concerned about is this:
Would some originality be too much to ask for? I don't think there were many people wanting Mudd with a high-budget mustache.
Since I don't watch much of ENT to begin with the end of ENT is something I can overlook.
Why is he lost? Because he doesn't interpret material in the same manner as you do? I know that there are quite a few folks who consider all of Enterprise a Riker holodeck fantasy based on that episode.
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