He only supervises it. And produces it. That unconnected stuff. It's not like he's sodded off to play art house porn on a streaming service or anything.
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He only supervises it. And produces it. That unconnected stuff. It's not like he's sodded off to play art house porn on a streaming service or anything.
Why not?
Sullivan still is involved with the show. Fuller is not. Sullivan is in a position to shape where the show will go. Fuller is not. Now tell me, WHY should we take Fuller's word over Sullivan's?
Nope. He's been a fan for a while. http://www.mtv.com/news/1713966/simon-pegg-star-trek-into-darkness/
Because he's not in charge of the creative direction of the show. Did you think he was?
jaime, educate us all - what exactly does the "supervising producer" on a television series supervise?
The Star Trek universe could certainly benefit from his perspective and sense of humor.
Really, really benefit. Like, a whole lot.
He's in charge of something, at least. Which is more than one can say for Fuller, who is not in charge of anything at all.
Then we'll have to agree to disagree. How boring would it be if everyone had the same opinion?
Well, Picard and his bridge crew could answer that more definitively.
Oh, well that clinches it then.
Sure it matter what they say. They created it, they have final say. And consistent with the established universe? How often did the 24th century shows not clash with eachother on small and big things? Often enough.
But you are correct about one thing. YOU decided, for yourself. You can treat this like a 3rd timeline if you wish, but the simple fact of the matter is, it's Prime timeline, since the creators of the show have established that as the settings. If certain new events change what's established, than we'll just have to learn to deal with it. Or be ostriches.
No, it doesn't matter at all what they say it is. It's not about being "ostriches". Lol. I happen to have no preference for what timeline it is set in. A reboot might be great. I'm willing to "deal" with a great deal of change. But whether it is prime has nothing to do with anything they say in interviews. It is only a matter of what happens on screen. And there was no new timeline between TOS, the Movies or TNG era, though there were times when technical, practical, financial considerations would cause changes, like having the budget to give the Klingons a more alien appearance in TMP. None of which apply to DSC though.
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Nutcase conspiracy theorist Doug Fitz fka Para Mobius (you know, the guy who was claiming years ago the new Trek series was Enterprise season 5, leading into Axanar: The Series) claims Bad Robot is secretly involved with Discovery and the show is using its copyrights and it's all Netflix's fault!
I think. It's really hard to follow.
I think. It's really hard to follow.
Because NuTrek copyrights! Or something
If I remember correctly, he'd claimed at some point that Beyond was cancelled and was going to be replaced with two TV shows, one of which would be a comedy (he predicted The Orville!Nutcase conspiracy theorist Doug Fitz fka Para Mobius (you know, the guy who was claiming years ago the new Trek series was Enterprise season 5, leading into Axanar: The Series) claims Bad Robot is secretly involved with Discovery and the show is using its copyrights and it's all Netflix's fault!
I think. It's really hard to follow.
) He obviously lost all credibility back then, but this post doesn't have a shred of truth, saying things like Bad Robot is secretly involved and that CBS is being bribed not to tell.
He wasn't a Trek fan. General SF and particularly Star Wars. It's why spaced is full of wars references and no Trek.
Mostly spending and budget I expect. Maybe logistics. I suspect he would push for Prime as that's the golden goose the licensees would want. He still actually, you know, works on the show. And he's not an executive producer. Edumicated now?
No, it doesn't matter at all what they say it is. It's not about being "ostriches". Lol. I happen to have no preference for what timeline it is set in. A reboot might be great. I'm willing to "deal" with a great deal of change. But whether it is prime has nothing to do with anything they say in interviews. It is only a matter of what happens on screen. And there was no new timeline between TOS, the Movies or TNG era, though there were times when technical, practical, financial considerations would cause changes, like having the budget to give the Klingons a more alien appearance in TMP. None of which apply to DSC though.
If I create something, and say it is set in a certain era, and people think it doesn't feel like that, that's their own feeling on the matter. But in the end, as creator, I'm still right. No matter what others might think or feel. So yes, it does matter they say. It really is that simple.
I personally also couldn't care what timeline it is, but it's a very simple fact that this show is set in the prime timeline. I honestly can't believe people think that what the creators of the show say doesn't matter.
And your budget comment not applying to DSC.... I have no idea what the budget for this show is, but technology has certainly improved, giving the production team the change to do far more elaborate things with SFX, set design, props and yes, also make-up. It's the exact same situation they had when making TMP. More budget, more technology.
In the end of the day, this show is set in Prime, but fans can't deal with this not looking like TOS. And if, at the end of the da, they'll feel better saying this isn't Prime, that's cool. I don't care. But my point, that creators are right in the end, stands.
No, if you put nuclear weapons and jet fighters in your WWI story, you reimagined history. I don't care what the creator says. It doesn't matter.
But I don't care what timeline it is set in. I dont have a preference for one over the other. I am not bothered by the uniforms or Klingons or any of the rest of it looking differently. Thats fine. I do think the uniforms are silly looking, and I dont care for the new Klingon look, but not because they are different. It's because they suck. Lol. I regard their reimagination as a reboot different timeline, but I dont think thats a bad thing.
It's not the same as TMP. They easily have the money to use the TNG/DS9/VOY Klingon look. They just thought it would be "fun" and "cool" to reimagine them.
If we're talking history, sure. We're talking about a scifi show. And people are getting way to worked up about the timeline, just like how I'm getting way to worked up about people.
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Things like uniforms and technology shouldn't matter really. Look at TOS and TMP. They are both Prime Timeline. Ten years in between in real life, but only 3 years or so have passed in-universe. EVERYTHING looked different, even the Klingons. Displays were different, uniforms, the technology looked different. And fans accept that both are Prime Timeline. Shouldn't be so hard to do the same here
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That look is now 20-something years old. I'm not the biggest fan of the new look Klingons (although I'll keep an open mind until I see the actual show) but I'm still a fan in principle of them having been given them a new look.
Not as many as Wars, but the Trek references are there. The Wars probably just got the bulk because of the prequels (particularly the episode dealing with the Episode One backlash)
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