Yeah, exactly. They should just relax and anjoy the show. Star Trek is back on tv. I don't get how some people aren't psyched about that fact alone. I had trouble sleeping yesterday after watching the new trailer.
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Yeah, exactly. They should just relax and anjoy the show. Star Trek is back on tv. I don't get how some people aren't psyched about that fact alone. I had trouble sleeping yesterday after watching the new trailer.
I'm fully prepared to love it, but I also hope it's successful because the future of the franchise partially hinges of that.
Only partially. If it fails, it gets shelved for a couple of years and then rebooted again because CBS owns it.
Common sense is boring.
As well as uncommon.
Couple of years? Look how long it took for another Trek show to come out after Enterprise was cancelled.
And the franchise got a bad rep. A failed show wouldn't help. I don't think it's an end-all-be-all situation, though.
That's because TNG was a reboot so there was no need to.
Jason
It got a film within 4 years. Reboots are coming faster and faster, with the pace of pop culture accelerating.
Warp ten in twenty years!
It looks like an extension of the aesthetic used for the USS Kelvin, which existed/originated in the PRIME TIMELINE.
Are their people who are upset about the look and tech changes? Seems to me the biggest argument is which universe the show is set in and even I think most people don't even mind that and are only concerned to how they will personally judge the show's connection to what has come before. I think most people actually like the trailer whether they want it to be a reboot or a prime universe show.
Jason
OMG I remember printing out the Badass Captain Robau comic cover eight years ago as a poster for my living room.
...man, does time fly by quickly. o.O
...man, does time fly by quickly. o.O
Agreed. You can't expect it to look the way it did in the 1960s. They didn't even have DNA technology on the original Star Trek (Kirk tries to figure out Kodos's identity using a voice recognizer in The Conscience of the King) so should they not have DNA technology on Discovery because it takes place before the original series?
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I think Enterprise was unfortunate in that it missed the new golden age of television by a few years. If they had waited just 2-3 seasons after Voyager ended before they decided to make a new show the television climate would have been a lot different, and I do think the show would have been better off for it. Television budgets increased drastically and procedural storytelling became obsolete in the span of a couple of years.
What we ended up with, unfortunately, was a show that could compete with neither the strength of the scripts of the old Trek shows, nor with the quality of the new tv shows that were starting to pop up on cable. Even a bad show with good plotting and nice visuals could have been marketable, but Enterprise was geared completely towards a core audience that it ended up disappointing massively.
I think there's less risk for Discovery to share that faith, even if it doesn't turn out to be all that great. With the Netflix deal and a modern look it's almost guaranteed to make a lot of money. Star Trek won't stay off tv for 12 years again this time. It might stay out of the movie theatres though, but I'm not bothered by that at all. The quicker the Abramsverse dies the better.
We've NEVER had more than a 4 year gap between some from of 'official' Paramount or CBS produced Star Trek (Film or TV show):
1969 - TOS ends
1973-75 - Star Trek Animated series (NBC Saturday mornings)
1979 - ST:TMP
1982 - STII:TWoK
1984 - STIII:TSFS
1986 - STIV:TVH
1987 - 1994 ST:TNG (TV Series)
1989 - STV: TFF
1991 - STVI:TUV
1993-1999 - ST
S9 (TV Series)1995-2001 - ST:VOY (TV Series)
1994: ST:GEN (TNG Film)
1996: ST:FC (TNG Film)
1998: ST:INS (TNG Film)
2001-2005: ENT (TV Series in native HD)
2002: ST:NEM (TNG Film)
2009: Star Trek (JJ Verse)
2013: STID (JJ Verse)
2016: STB (JJ Verse)
2017: ST: Discovery (Streaming and TV series in some countries)
So yeah, given the above I always love it when someone says "There was a drought of 'Star Trek'" because honestly some other proplular shows have sen a one off revival and/or waited DECADES for actual new official material. And also, cling Star Trek was never effectively rebooted in a fashion prior to JJ Abrams?...Please.
Guys, this is not a timeline thing. This is a decade the show is made in, and reigning production design themes. This show looks like the Kelvin movies because it is being made in 2017 and those movies were made in 2009-2016. Look at the Star Trek 5 bridge vs the previous 4 movies. Suddenly it has carpeting, and the controls are all touch screens. Why? Because that was what TNG looked like, even though TNG was set 80ish years later. That's what production design looked like.
In a Mirror Darkly mimicked the look of TOS because it was a loving look back done for nostalgia. Even though updated slightly, it STILL looked like it was created 40 years previous. Why? Because it was. You can not expect any show that intends to draw a modern audience to watch a set that looks like some press wood slapped together and painted with primary colors, or to use printouts instead of on screen displays, or what have you. It's not practical. They also, for the record, are not going to smear the camera lens with vaseline whenever they are filming women.
So the show is going to have a modern sense of production design, and in our heads, we are going to have to come together as a group and pretend that it looked this way all along. We can do it. I have faith in us.
In a Mirror Darkly mimicked the look of TOS because it was a loving look back done for nostalgia. Even though updated slightly, it STILL looked like it was created 40 years previous. Why? Because it was. You can not expect any show that intends to draw a modern audience to watch a set that looks like some press wood slapped together and painted with primary colors, or to use printouts instead of on screen displays, or what have you. It's not practical. They also, for the record, are not going to smear the camera lens with vaseline whenever they are filming women.
So the show is going to have a modern sense of production design, and in our heads, we are going to have to come together as a group and pretend that it looked this way all along. We can do it. I have faith in us.
This has got to be the funniest fan reaction I have seen so far.
Warning: Contains bad language!
Warning: Contains bad language!
This raises an interesting point! Will be perhaps get to see the Kelvin and Bdss. Capt. Robau in Discovery? (I know, probably not due to intellectual property reasons, but it might be fun to both placate and screw with fans at the same time, depending on sensibilities).
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