please write the script?!
No seriously - you keep mentioning it - have you thought in detail of how it should go? Which characters, actors etc?
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Poll Kelvin Star Trek 4 - Yea or Nay
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No seriously - you keep mentioning it - have you thought in detail of how it should go? Which characters, actors etc?
Redress the DSC Enterprise slightly then youre good, like paint the red blue and change the LCARS screens
It's been interesting to see everyone's opinion on this topic.
I have recently re-watched the Kelvin films, and I think I might have been a bit harsh on ST:ID. It's not too bad, and Benedict Cumberbatch was pretty good.
Anyway, the main reason i have re-considered my opinion of the Kelvin films is because of the casting. Zachary Quinto as Spock was pretty spot-on, as was Chris Pine as Kirk, and Karl Urban as McCoy was absolutely perfect. Zoë Saldana was good, as were Simon Pegg and John Cho. Anton Yelchin's casting confused me a bit, but he turned out to be OK.
The writing is not bad for all three films so far. The only major quibble I still have is that each of the three films have a totally different atmosphere. ST09 is like an origin story, ST:ID is way darker and feels more like a remake (however broadly) of TWOK. Beyond just seems like a long episode. I know Yorktown had loads of people living in it, but the stakes seemed much lower than in the other two films.
This diversity could be considered to be an advantage, but I would have preferred to see a 3-movie storyline, like in movies 2,3 and 4.
That being said, I'll watch any Star Trek once, and with another Kelvin film, they wouldn't have to introduce new characters, so I sort of hope Noah Hawley's film is another reboot.
I have recently re-watched the Kelvin films, and I think I might have been a bit harsh on ST:ID. It's not too bad, and Benedict Cumberbatch was pretty good.
Anyway, the main reason i have re-considered my opinion of the Kelvin films is because of the casting. Zachary Quinto as Spock was pretty spot-on, as was Chris Pine as Kirk, and Karl Urban as McCoy was absolutely perfect. Zoë Saldana was good, as were Simon Pegg and John Cho. Anton Yelchin's casting confused me a bit, but he turned out to be OK.
The writing is not bad for all three films so far. The only major quibble I still have is that each of the three films have a totally different atmosphere. ST09 is like an origin story, ST:ID is way darker and feels more like a remake (however broadly) of TWOK. Beyond just seems like a long episode. I know Yorktown had loads of people living in it, but the stakes seemed much lower than in the other two films.
This diversity could be considered to be an advantage, but I would have preferred to see a 3-movie storyline, like in movies 2,3 and 4.
That being said, I'll watch any Star Trek once, and with another Kelvin film, they wouldn't have to introduce new characters, so I sort of hope Noah Hawley's film is another reboot.
I'd prefer it. I've got an investment in those versions of the characters, and would love to see them given some kind of closure at least.
That being said, it's 11 years since their debut and 4 since their last outing (and, without confirmation of a new movie, you could easily envision another 3/4 years on top of that before it gets released). What once was new is now old, and therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if the next movie chooses not to revisit the Kelvin timeline and it's characters. I see that as a shame, but it is a reality.
That being said, it's 11 years since their debut and 4 since their last outing (and, without confirmation of a new movie, you could easily envision another 3/4 years on top of that before it gets released). What once was new is now old, and therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if the next movie chooses not to revisit the Kelvin timeline and it's characters. I see that as a shame, but it is a reality.
It still feels incredibly new and fresh to me
they just have to make another!!!!
they just have to make another!!!!
Do you think the George Kirk movie could be saved if the next film was based off of the Parallel Lives comics? Meaning we’d see Jane Tiberia Kirk, female Spock, and female George Kirk.
Yeah, because that worked soooooo well with those female Ghostbusters.
I mean, I would enjoy doing that. I doubt it would do well, unless there is a clear alternate universe mechanic put in to place. And, given that the arguments around Abrams Trek about inappropriate technology for the time period I doubt even such an explanation would be satisfy some.
I noted something similar in regards to what the Star Trek films could learn from Star Wars thread, even though - despite that warning - I don’t mind seeing a Captain Uhura. Just throwing it out there as a potential alternative solution though.
Just let it be some rift, or wormhole accident, or transporter malfunction, like how the Prime Universe explains visits to alternative universes.
Why can't CBSALLACCESS Star Trek shows be a launching point for upcoming movie vehicles? DISCO is set and it has it's own universe to pull from... just transition it into the big screen. If the movie is good people will come, and the producers wouldn't have to create much exposition to jump start. Viewers would have an idea who these characters are?
As for Star Trek 4? Bring it on, but please pay these actors what was promised to them.
I never said they couldn't. I said that I believe there won't be any more movies or stories set in the Kelvinverse because they have a new universe to play in, the Discoverse.
I like the Kelvin timeline a lot. I just think its weakness is in them trying to capture the magic of Wrath of Khan three times. Well maybe that's not fair but they keep focusing on singular definitely evil enemies so there is a level of sameness. With movies like Interstellar, The Martian, and Gravity the examples of how to do something drastically different non-villain space film are right there.
A solid YAY from me. I'm watching STID right now, and what I love about this reality is that the characters themselves are altered because their experiences have been. Jim Kirk was raised without a father and that altered who he was. Uhura is braver here and shown to be more capable. Spock has learned what his other self took many more years to learn... it's okay to be human sometimes. In this reality, Sulu's gay, and that just means something in his mom's system was different this time. And he's also a solid badass!
I also like those differences! That's the advantage of not being an exact prequel. And Sulu could be bi in both timelines
I think that's why these movies never bothered me, what's the point in doing what has already been done but in a new format rather than taking the chance to do something different. Especially so in a reboot, the whole point is to do something recognizable but different.I also like those differences! That's the advantage of not being an exact prequel. And Sulu could be bi in both timelines
My desire for a fourth Kelvin movie is provisional on that it isn't all smash and bang action.
You have a main cast full of actors that have starred in or been part of some hefty dramatic stuff. It isn't out of their range.
The writing needs to catch up. Trek has successfully done action with smart scripts for years. Movies like TWOK, TUC and FC have showed that. You really didn't need a huge introduction to Trek in any of those movies, which would easily fit the popcorn summer blockbuster that the studio is undoubtedly looking for. Those three movies have also been loved by Trek fans for years.
You have a main cast full of actors that have starred in or been part of some hefty dramatic stuff. It isn't out of their range.
The writing needs to catch up. Trek has successfully done action with smart scripts for years. Movies like TWOK, TUC and FC have showed that. You really didn't need a huge introduction to Trek in any of those movies, which would easily fit the popcorn summer blockbuster that the studio is undoubtedly looking for. Those three movies have also been loved by Trek fans for years.
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